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#115008 - 28/05/05 04:38 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread **** [Re: Thylith]
Zherec Offline
newbie

Registered: 23/10/04
I have had lots of fun with TTN:s recently. Split time TTN, TTN weave, split time TTN weave, BTB TTN and BTB split time TTN all learnt in one night. Yes i know, i am a slow learner.

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#115009 - 29/05/05 09:43 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Zherec]
tres Offline
newbie

Registered: 25/05/05
Loc: dorset
got really weird one moved from 5bt to above the head into a wrap thing which wont unwind unless bought behind the head and then into a 3bt backwards weave. tried and tested x but cant split them apart can only do as a sequence. hmm....
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#115010 - 30/05/05 06:42 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: tres]
JauntyJames Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 22/12/04
Loc: Hampshire College, MA, USA
Butterfly weave, 7 bt weave, and a couple basic wraps (I've been slacking with my wraps, so I figured I'd better catch up). Working on hyperloops, they're coming slowly. I hope to have it down by next weekend.
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#115011 - 30/05/05 11:27 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: JauntyJames]
bluecat Offline
geek, level 1

Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere


lots of stuff.

negative space tangles are making me smile lots at the mo
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#115012 - 31/05/05 02:59 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: bluecat]
newgabe Offline
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.

Registered: 03/03/05
Loc: Bali
Scuse me for butting in chaps but this is the most hilarious thread I've ever read, much funnier than anything in the chat section!! No no I'm not laughing AT you.. and I do know what yr talking about, but I just tried reading it as if I don't and then tried to imagine what on earth you're talking about....Negative space tangles !!! Love it!!!! That's what happens in a too small shared house kitchen, right? ( apple crumble... veges... Cork screw suicides!)

Carry on, I am gobsmacked with awe and have almost made my first pair of socks!
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#115013 - 31/05/05 03:22 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: newgabe]
Disc0 Offline
annoying boy

Registered: 03/10/04
Loc: Sweden
the "hide the poi behind my back"-stall
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#115014 - 01/06/05 04:28 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Disc0]
Puresock Offline
addict

Registered: 22/06/04
Loc: Oxford, UK
backwards behind the back butterfly waistwrap.

Thankyou miss Fairy for your inspiration
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#115015 - 01/06/05 10:28 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Puresock]
spiralx Offline
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Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
Straightjacket double throws and straightjacket into inverted crossarm weave.
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#115016 - 01/06/05 11:12 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: spiralx]
Mr_Chutney Offline
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Spiralx- WHAAAAT?

I didn't see you doing that last night- who what where????

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#115017 - 01/06/05 11:16 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: spiralx]
coleman Offline
big and good and broken

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Written by: spiralx


straightjacket into inverted crossarm weave.




i saw that.
and managed it meself a couple of times.
but i don't really know how to do it yet - i had to leave early on account of my loins...

negative space is cool


cole. x
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#115018 - 01/06/05 11:37 PM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: coleman]
Mr_Chutney Offline
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Oh ok- I did sort of see that- where were the double throws though?

And yes, negative space is cool- I just need to play more

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#115019 - 02/06/05 12:00 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Mr_Chutney]
spiralx Offline
veteran

Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
It might've been before you turned up... The throws go through the negative space so one goes straight up, one drops down.
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#115020 - 02/06/05 01:40 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: spiralx]
coleman Offline
big and good and broken

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
but how do you manage to catch a poi that you throw directly down towards the floor...?


cole. x
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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#115021 - 02/06/05 01:51 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: flash fire]
Sir Nuggit Offline
....is a liability

Registered: 10/05/05
Loc: playing with traffic

I taught myself what I thought was the backwards weave but it wasn't until I was round a fellow HoPers gaff at the weekend that someone pointed out that I had been doing it wrong all this time.

The new (and correct way) feels much better and no doubt looks it too - thanks Mr C
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#115022 - 02/06/05 04:42 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: coleman]
spiralx Offline
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Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
Written by: coleman


but how do you manage to catch a poi that you throw directly down towards the floor...?


cole. x



Quickly!

You catch it in the other hand as it goes past, it's more of a drop than a throw I guess. The one coming out of the top can be thrown a bit more nicely though.
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#115023 - 02/06/05 04:51 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: spiralx]
coleman Offline
big and good and broken

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
i like the first answer best


cole. x
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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#115024 - 02/06/05 09:28 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: coleman]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
ive been mainly trying to get back into some of the places i got into last week and thought were cool, but i keep ending up in new places which i also immedietly forget how to get back into.

also worked out a funky but simple little move and for once i think i can describe it in words so i will - a recipe for you:

1. from same direction split time stuff stall one poi up, one poi down.
2. let the poi head that you stalled up drop into your hand and catch it.
3. spin your hands around so the other poi is stalled pointing up and the hand holding the poi head is facing down.
4. drop the poi head you caught last time and catch the other one.
5. repeat
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#115025 - 02/06/05 10:40 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: coleman]
poiboytoy Offline
newbie

Registered: 31/05/05
Loc: Utah
hey peoples,
I'm new here and I'm trying to get some tips on the reverse 5 beat weave, got it going forwards but its driving me crazy trying to go backwards. and what the hell are butterfly hyperloops, suicide corksrews, and straightjacket double throws? I'm jonesen' for some new tricks here, please help.
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#115026 - 03/06/05 12:15 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: poiboytoy]
Puresock Offline
addict

Registered: 22/06/04
Loc: Oxford, UK
Written by: poiboytoy


hey peoples,
I'm new here and I'm trying to get some tips on the reverse 5 beat weave, got it going forwards but its driving me crazy trying to go backwards. and what the hell are butterfly hyperloops, suicide corksrews, and straightjacket double throws? I'm jonesen' for some new tricks here, please help.




http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...5/o/all/fpart/1
Reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaddddddd.

As for all the crazy terminology that's flying around here, plug it into the forum search (Up there ^^^) and see what comes up.
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#115027 - 03/06/05 02:07 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: yashiro]
Shu Offline
Retro Fyre Wizzard

Registered: 19/04/05
Loc: Pietermaritzburg (KZN)
okay...
i've started doing this move that i have never actually seen, or heard of before. I initially thought it might be a TTN, until i actually read what a TTN is, which is an old easy move!

I have searched through about 35 threads for information on what it might be... the only thing i can possibly think of calling it is an inverted or inside out weave.

Here's how it goes:

using the wheel/buzzsaw plane, keep the righthand poi rotating on the left side of your right hand and the lefthand poi rotating on the right side of your left hand at all times, otherwise you go into a normal weave.

Basically you spin between a wheel/buzzsaw and a crossover, alternating which arm is "on top" or "leading" to avoid wrapping yourself into a knot.

or another way to explain:
your right hand poi must stay on the left side of your right arm, but alternates between rotating from the left to right side of your left arm every beat, and visa-versa

i can't really think of a better way to explain it.

It'a new move (well about 3 weeks old now) for me, so i thought this could be the best place to post to get an answer rather than creating a new thread!
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#115028 - 03/06/05 02:14 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Shu]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
shu - i think id call that a notcoleman3, not sure what anyone else calls it, but sweet
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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
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#115029 - 03/06/05 02:16 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: oli]
Shu Offline
Retro Fyre Wizzard

Registered: 19/04/05
Loc: Pietermaritzburg (KZN)
i'll try a search!

shotto oli

EDIT:
No luck with that or variations


Edited by Shu (03/06/05 02:20 AM)
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#115030 - 03/06/05 03:10 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: Shu]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
i just looked in the inversions thread and cole describes it as a 3bt inside weave,

Written by: coleman from the inversions thread


1: [out|buzz|buzz|buzz|out]R (right poi spinning in right side outside plane)
2: L[out||buzz|buzz|buzz|out] (left poi spinning in left side outside plane)
3: [out|buzz|buzz|buzz||out]R (right crosses over to left side outside)
4: L[out||in|out] (left passes through inside to right side outside)

5: [out|buzz|in||out]r (right spinning in left side outside)
6: L[out||buzz|buzz|in|buzz|out] (left spinning in right outside)
7: [out|in|buzz|||out]R (right passes through inside to left side outside)
8: l[out||buzz|in|out] (left spinning in right side outside)
9: [out|buzz|in||out]R (right spinning in left side outside)
10: L[out||in|out] (left passes through inside to right side outside)

13: [out|buzz|in||out]R (right crosses over to right side outside)
14: L[out||buzz|buzz|buzz|out] (left crosses over to left side outside)


repeating steps 5 to 10 equates to spinning a 3bt inside weave.




but i think that means something else too namely a weave with all the beats inside. this isnt the place for a discussion about names and i dont really know what is what when it comes to terminolegy.

basically i think of it as a notcoleman3 because i learnt it after i learnt the notcoleman5 which is basically the same except you let the right poi come to the right of the right arm from the centre, instead of moving it to the left outside. and likewise with the left poi when its in the middle.


Edited by oli (03/06/05 03:13 AM)
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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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#115031 - 03/06/05 04:00 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: oli]
coleman Offline
big and good and broken

Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
nice one oli

when i first found that weave (exactly as oli said - through simplifying a notcoleman5) i described it using the phrase "over-under-through" since that's how it differs from a normal 3bt weave (which is "over-under-back").

so yeah, i call it a notcoleman3 too now on account of the fact that it definitely isn't a proper inside weave (which i have no idea how to do!).

shu - there's a little video with that move in: rite clik, say vaz...
its the first thing in the second part of the video, after the one poi plane demo and the beer swigging

i learnt nothing new today (apart from the fact that doing my job is tantamount to beating your head against a wall).





cole. x
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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#115032 - 03/06/05 11:28 AM Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread [Re: coleman]
spiralx Offline
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Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
It's a notcoleman3 aka buzzsaw weave aka uncrossed inverted weave. As people have said
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#115033 - 03/06/05 06:06 PM What I learned during my stay in Peru. [Re: flash fire]
Falderfaile-POI Offline
Member

Registered: 03/06/05
Loc: Daytona Beach Area, Florida
On thursday I was going to my friend andrews house and 2 guys stopped me and asked if I knew anything with my poi set I was holding. And when it was all over I had learned how to do the overhead butterfly. I found this site later that day and learned how to do an alternate butterfly and a mexican wave. I'm getting pretty good (I'm in peru for vacations)

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#115034 - 05/06/05 03:39 AM Re: What I learned during my stay in Peru. [Re: Falderfaile-POI]
StarlyStar Offline
journeyman

Registered: 21/07/04
Loc: Buxton, Derbyshire. UK
I spun fire for the first time last night and it was amazing


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#115035 - 05/06/05 10:16 AM Re: What I learned during my stay in Peru. [Re: StarlyStar]
arashi Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 21/03/02
Loc: austin,tx
mantis style kung fu + conicals = getting laid

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#115036 - 05/06/05 10:45 AM Re: What I learned during my stay in Peru. [Re: arashi]
upsidedown Offline
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Registered: 24/05/05
Loc: Bucks
isolated anti-spin weaves
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#115037 - 05/06/05 05:57 PM Re: What I learned during my stay in Peru. [Re: Falderfaile-POI]
Falderfaile-POI Offline
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Registered: 03/06/05
Loc: Daytona Beach Area, Florida
In the plaza I swung (is that how I would say it?) fire for the first time on saturday night. OMG it was awesome. I bought a fire poi setup from one of my friends named Bamban and I burnt my hair. I love my hair. Like my pants?
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