Anybody Know about Fred Phelps?

We know vandalism isn't the answer. But it sure is fun to fantasize about!

Haha, I would never vandalize anything, although I have, and as a result was chased throught the woods by police at three in the morning. And no im not jokin. Id just hire someone else to do it for me! Haha. And besides. I live nowhere near that town, although that isn't a bad thing. Id rather not be near that man. LOL. And I think Phelps should be scared for his safety. Hear that Phelps? RUN AND HIDE!!!!! MWahahahahahaha. Well thats my best threat I can make at the moment.

Hey anyone know this guy Phelps' email address? It would make more sense to stop whining about, which is a good thing mind you, and actually tell this guy what we think.

Well, I looked up Fred Phelps and found the infamous god hates fags website. Check it out if you want to get angry. Oh, and if you want to get homicidal, check out their memorial to Matthew Shepard . At first I wasn't sure, but I'm now thinking the whole site is Phelps/the Westboro Baptist Church's page. I think they're one in the same. It's a staggaring site, I'm about to listen to one of Phelps sermans.

here's the devil Phelps himself



oh, also check out the hatemongers site. Also interesting.

[ 09. October 2003, 15:03: Message edited by: Jello ]

Contact info from Phelps's site.

Actually I have a better idea. Let's all go to gay pr0n sites and sign him up for XXX mailing lists...

I am an actor and i have been involved with two theatre companies that did "the laramie project".And i am glad that art is ussed to raise awareness of social issues that people like phelps (note the lowercase) fear.viva life.viva art

ps.
I just listened to one of his sermons...he freaks me out.Dont think he is right in the head.

[ 09. October 2003, 16:37: Message edited by: Alfred ]

couldnt we erect a statue of fred phelps nearby with an appropriate quote??? any suggestions?

I think we all argee that vandolism isn't the right way forward, but how about something a little more subtle.

I'm assuming the plaque is going to be attached to the memorial in some easily maintainable way?

So have another palque made... this time with something a little more suitable as the subscription...

"MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Heaven October 12, 1998, <insert bible quote on tollerance here>"

middle of the night, change the plaque...

no obvious signs of vandolism, and anyone in future reading the palque will get the right message not some rantings of a deranged biggot...

PsyB.

It's things like this that give America such a bad name throughout the rest of the world.
Lacking a little knowledge in the ways of American law would the American Government/State Law Enforcement actually allow this sort of thing to be made and presented in public?!!?!

Theoretically, yes, because of the court ruling on the Ten Commandments statue. But I'm going to hope that they reverse the ruling or come up with some legality that will not allow this to happen.

Surely that would count as actively and openly supporting oppresion of (minority?) groups and go against equality rights?
Is there actually a bill that supports the ten commandments in the US? Isn't this supposed to be a modern world?!

The problem is that freedom of speech includes the right to say offensive things that we don't want to hear.

If you wanted to suppress the sign, you'd have to argue that it falls under one of the exceptions to the First Amendment - for example, the "fighting words" exception or the "incitement to crime" exception. Look how it's already inciting talk of crime on our parts - it's an easy argument to make.

Freedom of Speach is definitly a tricky issue, the fact that Phelps preaches what he does is "fine" with me. I may not like it but thats not the point. However what he's proposing with this monument is crossing the line. It can only serve to hurt. Another problem I have is that the presidency only seems to support that mode of thinking. Sure Bush doesn't say God hates fags, but all his actions indicate he on that side of the fence.

yes i agree that a new, more appropriate plaque instead of the other one would be good. and yes, that is considered vandalism.

vandalism: willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

defacement: to mar the external appearance of : injure by effacing significant details

so, considering that a plaque in favor of matthew shepard would be willfully "marring" the appearance of it according to dumba** Phelps, then we would be vandalizing it.

so ya, i'm still in favor of vandalism in this case

I dunno if this is a good idea, but how about we start a petition to stop the erection of this statue? With enough people against it, can't the state have it taken down? It will at least publically show the protest to this thing. Damn it. And his website is GOD HATES FAGS? Well, ya know what? I HATE PHELPS! I really hope nobody is takin this guy seriously, but there is a better chance that some wackos are. Sad... But I do like the change the plaque idea. Thats good. God, haha, I just remembered a joke i saw on tv. It had rowan Atkinson as the devil, and he was passing people through to hell. He was like, ok all the murderers over there, all the rapists over there, and all the christians over there. Seems like the jews WERE right, you WERE wrong. I hope its like, seems that god WAS tolerant, and you are an asshole Mr. Phelps. Please, over there with the murderers. Haha, oh yes. But a petition? Would anyone help me start that?

Some of you guys need to go back and have a look at my fist post, i talked about changing the plak and also what the new plak should say.

have better idea though the law i believe over in the states is that any religiou sign display can be shown right!

well lets make every possible stautue to suport and to be against each cast creed and religion and put the next to each other in the park.

thsi will show everyone both sides to predudice and hopefully also show that things are never what we think.

if you do them all no one can complain especially if both views are shown and if there is the freedom of speach allowed.

we must stop the freedom of speach even if it is by A holes like this so called men of god, but instaed enbrace it, and make bigatry useless in the face of openness!

love man don't hate, understand don't judge, be open not closed

The City Council voted to not allow Phelps's "memorial". They literally told Phelps that he wasn't welcome there. He intends to bring suit. Read more here.

YAY!!!!

i'm all for takeing this statue and shoving it up the "devil's" darker areas all in one piece. by the way i didn't here any one call the spare bed just the couch. so dibbs on the bed.

You know what? This Phelps guy isn't a Christian. He's mentally ill. But for some reason, when someone who is mentally ill hides their illness behind religion, it's seen as "freedom of speech" and he's given media coverage.

Fact is that his beliefs are way out of line with mainstream Christianity and that is a defining symptom of mental illness.