tim_marston
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I thought i would start a thread for people interested in fire staff juggling,i am really interested to see any videos of people throwing two or more staffs,and in particular anyone taking it in new direction.
I am currently working on routines with two and three staffs and contemplating a serious attempt at the four staff shower,
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16/10/06 03:20 AM
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Antti_Everything
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16/10/06 05:27 AM
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Hey Tim.. I don't remember if we've talked about this with you.. but 2 object siteswaps can be very useful for double staff juggling. I'm sure you could find a lot of interesting things from there. Find a pattern and then make variations to it by changing where to throw or catch and so on...
Try 5-0-1 for example.. It's one of my favourites. Especially with all throws from the outside.
I'll try to get back to staff juggling this winter and work on something new.. maybe even vids..
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17/10/06 05:50 AM
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checkout the user imakokode (i think thats how it is spelt) hes pretty good at juggling staffs
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17/10/06 10:36 AM
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Written by: The Antti
Hey Tim.. I don't remember if we've talked about this with you.. but 2 object siteswaps can be very useful for double staff juggling. I'm sure you could find a lot of interesting things from there. Find a pattern and then make variations to it by changing where to throw or catch and so on...
Try 5-0-1 for example.. It's one of my favourites. Especially with all throws from the outside.
I'll try to get back to staff juggling this winter and work on something new.. maybe even vids..
Like that behind the back pass ! 
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18/10/06 07:16 PM
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Fenfire.. but you know that Tim, you were at UberEurope...
David (Y)'s video of Sebastian: The Art of Three Staff Juggling is both hilarious and disturbingly good. Particularly if you like blokes in skirts.
Couldn't find it on the internet though I did find this, from ....1947!!!
Yeah, so cutting edge we are
Give us another 60 years and we'll almost be up to baton 
*ducks Meg and runs*
Edit: Dave says he's trying to get this vid up on the internet...
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18/10/06 11:09 PM
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I have had a 3 staff video planned for months (starring Seb, not me), but haven't had the time to actually shoot it. Once things get a bit more organised around here (its getting better - we actually have hot running water now), maybe I can kick Seb's ass and we will get on it.
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25/10/06 11:02 AM
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Written by: newgabe
Fenfire.. but you know that Tim, you were at UberEurope...
David (Y)'s video of Sebastian: The Art of Three Staff Juggling is both hilarious and disturbingly good. Particularly if you like blokes in skirts.
Here it is
http://www.fenfire.glenneroo.org/Triple_Staff.mpg
enjoy
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28/10/06 06:40 AM
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Juggling stile is the best:)
i think that to juggle 3 it's raccomanded to learn some 2 staff siteswap such:
-42
-shower
-shower-up-piruette
-at least some duplex thorows
-Even Parallele duplex(watch uberpromo,with the guy who makes parallel duplex and piruette)
Well,and what about passing?
does anyone(except antti and Rhd)knows some videos abouit that?
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03/11/06 01:58 PM
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Hey guys
nothing to say but being happy to see all of you in the same thread
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17/11/06 06:59 AM
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Hey guys
nothing to say but being happy to see all of you in the same thread
If you want I can take a picture of you guys....
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Antti_Everything
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17/11/06 08:29 AM
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Hola..
Just thought of something sweet that prob won't happen 'cos everybody here are slackers. Atleast I am.
Anyway.. I'd love to make a staff juggling vid with all you guys and others in it. If you could send me one or two 15-20 second clips of the most hardcore staff juggling sequences you can come up with.. I could edit them into an amazing video. I got some nice new stuff for it and we can come up with something silly with Tommi also.
Upload them on your site for me to download or send on a cd. 10mb or less files can be sent to my hotmail..
Sound good to anyone?
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18/11/06 09:39 AM
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sounds like a great idea anti
but unfortunately i can't juggle staffs 
yet 
hope you get some wicked footage
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11/12/06 12:51 AM
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Yeh, I'm up for that.
Seb and I have a ridiculous new passing pattern
I guess we should train it so that it works
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11/12/06 01:51 AM
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i'm clearly going to have to get strugnell juggling staffs.
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12/12/06 01:43 AM
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I'll join you rob I just need to make some small juggle sized staffs,
you'll have to teach strugz how to juggle well first you only need to teach me triple staff
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mcp
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12/12/06 01:54 AM
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but clearly to juggle 3 staffs, all you have to do is learn to throw one staff in all the different ways, then just add two more. 
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Neon_Shaolin
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12/12/06 02:03 AM
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I saw you attempting it in the L.A.B. 6 video (with 2, or 1 staff and a ball ), but I kept getting an ERROR ERROR message for some reason...  
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mcp
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12/12/06 02:08 AM
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I was doing 'straights' in that video, (rather than flats) Clearly I didn't know how to do it properly, cos I didn't add two more. Which is probably why you got the error message...
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12/12/06 04:48 AM
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Written by: mcp
but clearly to juggle 3 staffs, all you have to do is learn to throw one staff in all the different ways, then just add two more.
thx mcp
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Irinus
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12/12/06 08:15 AM
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Hmmm, now all I need are some more juggleable staffs and a videocamera...
Antti, do you use 1m staffs like Seb and co?
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12/12/06 08:38 AM
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Written by: mcp
but clearly to juggle 3 staffs, all you have to do is learn to throw one staff in all the different ways, then just add two more.
or 3 why be lazy?
I can juggle golf clubs...
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13/12/06 12:00 AM
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Written by: mcp
but clearly to juggle 3 staffs, all you have to do is learn to throw one staff in all the different ways, then just add two more.
*grinz*
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Irinus
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Ok, I've been thinking about this for a while, but the cold weather has slowed down my progress on this trick 
I call it 'logic' or 'perfect 3 staff cascade' and I'd like to know if there's anyone out there who can do it... ready... here comes the explanation:
When doing a three staff cascade, I've seen it done with 'foward' and 'backward' throws (is this correct terminology?) i.e. normal and reverse cascade, but to do these, you have to stop the staves in order to throw them back the other way (whether you're doing the Antti or French cascade this is true).
The thing that makes a staff different from a club is the beauty of its spin so purists (I'm looking at you Dave) would say that it's wrong to stop the staff in order to throw it back, SO, here's the 'perfect cascade':
(R= Right L= Left H=Hand)
RH: normal cascade throw
LH: normal cascade throw
RH: normal cascade throw
LH: (after catching 1st RH throw) reverse cascade throw
RH: reverse cascade throw
LH: reverse cascade throw
RH: normal cascade throw (This is identical to the first throw and so the sequence repeats ad infinitum)
As you can see, because each staff is being thrown alternately with a normal and reverse throw in the appropriate hand, its spin never changes direction thereby making it perfect or a logical progression which is why I like to call it 'logic.'
I'm sure people use the above sequence to transition from normal cascade to reverse (I think _Y_ showed it to me once), but I haven't seen anyone do it back to back so you're juggling 3 throws normal - 3 throws reverse - 3 throws normal etc.
So, who can do it? Seb? Antti? _Y_? And who's gonna post the first video to show how it looks with fire ! 
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15/12/06 01:51 AM
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it would look very nice I think, the pattern would be very wide with staffs though to stop them clashing, or some VERY accurate throws would be needed.
what about columns?
2 outside staffs thrown together and the centr staff thrown at right angles... the 2 outside staffs would be continuous circles / spirals... could be done as double without the middle staff (would have to be SHORT staves of course)
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