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Skulduggery
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     04/02/06 08:08 AM

Why is it some people like things to be grouped in odd numbers and others like the symmetry of even numbers?

I personally am an odd numbers fan. If I put pictures together on the mantelpiece I will group them in 3's or 5's. If I discribe something I nearly always either use one or 3 adjectives. I will hardly ever use 2. I prefer things to be balanced but asymmetrical rather than symmetrical.

I know plenty of people that prefer things to be 2 by 2. They find my grouping in 3's annoying.

Why are some people odds and some people evens? Does it have something to do with a scientific v artistic mind maybe? Is it just a learned habit from your parents/gardians? Left handers v right handers?


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  new 04/02/06 08:24 AM

Looking around my room, I've grouped things in 2s, 3s, 4s, 5s and 6s. I think it's just random placement on my part. What I do like is creating checkerboard effects, so if I have 6 pictures, and 3 of them are predominantly blue and 3 are predominantly white (for example) then I'll put them in 2 rows of 3 alternating blue with white. It's just a little peccadillo of mine though, I'm not so bothered about the numbers.

But then, I'm ambidexterous

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  new 04/02/06 09:21 AM

I'm an odd number kind of person as well. The tattoos I'm getting (fox paw prints) are going in 7 groups of 3. I like to keep an odd number of piercings total, although they sometimes go in even numbers. I decorate by odd numbers too - 1 big thing with 3 small things in front of it, 3 groups of 3 pictures and 1 odd picture. 1 or 3 candles at a time. I don't know why but I just hate even numbers. Every other birthday disappoints me.

The Celts actually believed that odd numbers were balanced - an even number of things balanced by a middle link.

I'm right handed and more scientifically minded.

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  new 04/02/06 10:31 AM

I like things in either 2's or threes myself. Some things I like to be nice and symmetrycal, other things I like in threes because I think for those 2 isnt enough, three isa nice number while 4 is too much.

I dont think I could say what thing I prefere in 2's or 3's ahead of time, it all depends on how I see them at the time. Good question tho skully!

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  new 05/02/06 01:00 AM

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I don't group objects... but I'm going to look around now, see if I can find anybody who does.

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  new 05/02/06 03:12 AM

Do you like odd groups of people too. Like talk to one or with two, meaning totals of 2 or three.

Interesting observation kully


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  new 05/02/06 03:30 AM

I like 3-somes

But honestly I do not have a preference, but prefer to memorize (phone)numbers in pairs of three...

Besides: Three is the necessary number with which you can place an object in space... it's the devine/ perfect number, as it has a beginning, a middle and an end, can't be divided but by one and itself... also: if you do one thing, it might be a mistake, the second time to verify - but the third time definately counts... There's more to number three, but I can't remember right now.

Really I haven't quite thought about the attributes of odd and even - preferences.... Good question skully

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  new 05/02/06 04:10 AM

We were always tought in english GCSE to describe things with 3 adjective. Rules of 3 etc..
But as far as aesthetics go, I like everything symetrical. Note all my piercings. If theres one on one side theres one on the other, all apart from my nose.
I just like things liek that

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  new 05/02/06 03:39 PM

it sounds like a type of ocd to me

i dont group things had a look around my flat and no nothing is grouped im a clutter fan


they do say a majority of people show slight ocd behaviour such as grouping things or saying certain things at certain times ect

mine for that is walking on only 2 drain covers in a row and avoiding a third as 2 for good luck 3 for bad silly i know

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shen shui
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  new 06/02/06 11:37 AM

maiden mother crone.

3 is the minimum you need to create a 2-dimensional shape.

pairings are as important as triplings, however.

everything has its opposite, its balance... (everything is yin to (something else that is) yang, and everything has yin and yang aspects within it)...

im drawn to both..! aargh! (is that balanced, then? ahem)

2,3,5.

good old fibonacci.



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  new 07/02/06 01:01 AM

i prefer odd numbers. Then, when evenly distributed, you have one thing in the middle, as opposed to having a gap in the middle, which vaguely annoys me.

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Skulduggery
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  new 07/02/06 01:13 AM

Written by: dani_babyboo


it sounds like a type of ocd to me






I might be wrong but I don't think you are understanding me. I don't have to have things in groups of odds. I don't fret about it. I don't lay awake at night wondering if all my belongings are sat about in groups of odd numbers. I'm sure, if you wondered about my cluttered messy house, you would find lots of things in pairs.

I more meant, that for some reason I gravitate toward odd numbers. I find groups of three things together more aesthetically pleasing than pairs, and I just wondered if there was a reason for that. I wondered if it was just a random reason or if there was a pattern to it, such as do artistic people liked pairs more and scientific people liked odd numbers? Maybe it is to do with left handed/ right handedness? Could it be due to who you were raised by and their preferences?

I was just pondering that fact out loud on HoP to see if anyone had any theories on it.


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  new 07/02/06 01:38 AM

yer but ocd is wildly misunderstood and i can see it not being such a harsh name soon

ive watched programs that have said a majority of people tend to do somethings all the time and not realise and it is a very mild form similar to ocd but not where there obsessed about it just do it without realising and it is one of the studys where they say the obsession can come from when someone has a lot of stress in there life or something go wrong

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  new 07/02/06 06:23 AM

I tend to list adjectives in threes, but only when I write. It's thorough, rhythmic, and psychologically satisfying. See?

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  new 07/02/06 10:06 AM

I like 3 and its multiples, I think they're lucky for me. Mainly because if you look at my birthday in this format:

27/3/81

They are all mutliples of 3

and also

27 X 3 = 81

I like these numbers

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  new 07/02/06 10:53 AM

I hate odds.

2, 4, 8, 64.

I don't even like 6. It's too close to odd.

Evens all the way.

I think it's a spacial visual thing.

Though if you're talking about relationships, I know some Burningman folk who would be into 3s, 4s or 5s.

But not me. My other half arrives Friday.

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  new 07/02/06 11:47 AM

Written by: Prometheus


I tend to list adjectives in threes, but only when I write. It's thorough, rhythmic, and psychologically satisfying. See?


The legendary 'power of three' used by politicians and their like since time immemorial. I learned about it in English class.

'Education, education, education' - remember that?

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  new 07/02/06 11:53 AM

I am definately an odd person

I have always liked 3

3x3=9

3,6,9

Ok so thats even.

but yes, I always group in odds.

I'm an art student by the way, I'm right handed but dyslexic - definately a visual thinker.

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  new 07/02/06 12:26 PM

in music I hate a 4/4 beat I gotta have something else going on, at college we've been writing a tune with two overlapping time signatures (on different instruments), sounds quite disjointed cause it's 4/4 & 3/4 so it only meets up properly every 4 bars (of 3/4, or 3 of 4/4), but a 3 or 5 beat in an unnatural environment is often lovely.

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  new 07/02/06 03:48 PM

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The legendary 'power of three' used by politicians and their like since time immemorial. I learned about it in English class.

'Education, education, education' - remember that?




Yeah, what happened to that Policy, anyway??

We learned about it in Sociology. I then spent a productive half hour talking to my friends in lists of four, rather than three. They were actually very weirded out, but couldn't tell me why...

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  new 07/02/06 06:23 PM

here i was thinking it was location, location, location...

but maybe thats something else...

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  new 08/02/06 09:48 AM

Written by: dani_babyboo


yer but ocd is wildly misunderstood and i can see it not being such a harsh name soon

ive watched programs that have said a majority of people tend to do somethings all the time and not realise and it is a very mild form similar to ocd but not where there obsessed about it just do it without realising and it is one of the studys where they say the obsession can come from when someone has a lot of stress in there life or something go wrong




I don't think OCD is a harsh name. It's a condition that some people suffer from, just as some people are bi-polar or dyslexic or epileptic or are a chrones sufferer. I do think, however, to label people as having OCD for just finding one thing or another more aesthetically pleasing is (IMO) an insult to people that really do have OCD. To label everything as a form as OCD is trivialising the disorder and the people that are really suffering from it.

I'm not trying to attack you personally here Dani, so please don't think I am. I see this happening a lot. People apply names of various disorders and syndromes all the time to things that don't really warrant them and it bugs me. If a person were to say they like purple more than orange would that make them an OCD sufferer because to me that's the same thing as liking even more than odd or vice versa.

I would agree with you that if a person was compelled to keep everything in pairs and it caused them a great deal of stress not to do so, then, yes I'd say there was a good chance they were suffering from OCD as it is a compulsion effecting thier stress levels and they can only feel calm if they know everything is in pairs. I do not however feel that having a aesthetic preference for pairs over odd means you are an OCD sufferer.


Ok that was a bit

Back on topic

So do you people think there is some kind of link to the odds and evens attraction and the kind of thought processes you have or left handedness or dyslexia.....or (insert idea here)

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  new 08/02/06 10:54 AM

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To label everything as a form as OCD is trivialising the disorder and the people that are really suffering from it.




Well there is in everything different degrees of things. Ranging from very mild, to extreme cases. Prefereing things to be grouped a certain way could come from a very mild dregree of OCD, which who knows we all could have, most people like things to be done in a certain way I know I do.

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  new 08/02/06 11:44 AM

If we all have it and it's not effecting our lives in any adverse way how can it be discribed as a disorder? Surely the word disorder implies that it's something abnormal.

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  new 08/02/06 12:00 PM

I agree with scully, just because you find things displayed in odd numbers more aesthetically pleasing, does not mean you suffer from OCD!

If it was the case that everything had to be neatly arranged in pairs\symetrical, for instance, having to wear a watch on each wrist, then there would be a problem.

But not having a preference!

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