Dentrassi
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The SuperHappyFun Definitive Contact Thread
edit: finished for the night - after an epic battle involving UBB code and a toaster. if you have any other links ive missed let me know.
Ive basically listed here every single contact thread I could find on HoP, with a quick summary of what is in each one. Ive divided it up into 3 sections
1. Newbies
2. More Advanced Stuff
3. Combination Ideas
A couple of threads are listed in a few places because they discuss a range of moves.
Part 1 - For newbies:
The key difference in contact staff compared to conventional spinning is that you move your body around the staff as much as it moves around you.
*yoda voice* You must be at one with the staff
Its hard to explain, until you’ve seen some videos. For videos of individual movements:
- MCP's website has a range of videos with supporting explanations and tips.
For videos with nice smooth combinations:
- www.poiinthepark.net
- www.soton-firespinning.co.uk
- knox’s stuff, in particular the videos knox2 . Where im living no-one else has even started contact, so ive been on my own - Knox’s video has been the best resource ive ever found.
- this video http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi is also rather helpful.
- the spinach sessions Part 2 has some lovely contact and general shenanigans
- a whole bunch of other stuff by bluecat, glass, and others which im too tired to make the effort to find right now.
here's some descriptions of the fundamental moves. being HoP threads, the conversation meanders somewhat....
incidently, ado-p is writing up stuff as he learns contact moves so beginners may find that useful.
i think the basic contact movements are the:
-elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
-shoulder-neck-shoulder
-halo roll [shoulder-backpivot-shoulder]
-the half steve [palmspin-arm-neck-arm-palmspin]
-fishtails [back of hand]
Elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
- Robs Contact Thread gives a description
- im sure i remember another one somewhere...
Shoulder-neck-shoulder & halo rolls
- Mcp’s shoulder-neck-shoulder variants thread
- shoulder-neck-shoulder-halo moves
- a very old description of the halo roll
- many moves can be done on both the back and front of the neck
The half steve
This move is a fraction of ‘the steve’- named after steve from mushypea juggling who is one of the pioneers of contact staff.
- palm spin to neck wrap transfers thread give a range of tips
- backspin to quarter steve exits gives some info on a variation of the move
Fishtails
- fishtails thread
- another fishtails thread
Part 2: More advanced stuff
neck spin to head spin transfers
forehead spins & aspirin
contact catches
crude staffing
Inverted Fishtails
foot stuff
- the mullen
- the lynx
- Silly contact knee roll
- Contact stalls and foot juggles
- Contact Leg Throw
Part 3: Combinations & Random Ideas
heres some threads which may give you a few more ideas.
Robs Contact Thread is a rather large thread from a colourful feline. This has enough funky singles and doubles contact moves and ideas to keep you going for a while
nice contact combos thread
random ideas thread
more contact ideas
look mum! no hands! - another older thread
another older random ideas thread
one more....
Variations of neck-spins
the double steve [also described in robs contact thread]
a thread on doubles separations and combinations that uses some contact
a few mentions of doubles crosses and contact
an old post relating contact & baton twirling
contact staff vs baton twirlers...
stuff about contact grip contstruction
Contact staff size & construction
a philiosophical discussion about what is a contact combo
a random post on the origins of contact
fishy neckrolls & bitching about baton twirlers
An old thread with dead links...
Edited by Dentrassi (30/09/04 02:35 AM)
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UsedCarOnlyFord
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27/09/04 10:08 PM
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Do we get to talk about Badgers in here too?

like in the Hyperloops and tangles thread?
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Dentrassi
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27/09/04 10:09 PM
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certainly! kitten related crimes can also be discussed!
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27/09/04 10:15 PM
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Hows this:
http://www.advocate611.com/hb11lng.htm
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Dentrassi
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28/09/04 03:09 AM
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*shudder* legal stuff...
i never paid much attention to laws.
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28/09/04 05:43 AM
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Written by: Dentrassi
certainly! kitten related crimes can also be discussed!
I was mugged by a kitten once. Does that count? It was a f***ing big kitten, with a leather studded bow and very little fur, in case anyone thinks i'm a wuss. It approached me and asked 25p for a tin of tuna, and when I asked it how it could opperate a tin opener with those paws, it got a bit worked up and started pushing me around and demanding my wallet. I gave it to him, and he legged it into a park. It was caught when it tried to use my ID to buy beer, but got away when some of its mates rushed the police outside the shop. I last saw it on crimewatch, seems it had held up a fishmonger, got away with ten pounds of fish sticks.
--ben
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simian
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28/09/04 06:56 AM
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does anybody mind if i go a bit
and avoid any mention of kittens, and instead just give some
to Dentrassi for his most excellent work on his links:
Good work sir!
and good luck also for the substantial amounts of future editry you will have to endure as and when any new contact thread gets created.
bwa ha ha haaaaaaa...
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28/09/04 11:01 PM
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Could I add on a helpful note that there's no mention of the Rubber Heart Duo's video which is an excellent vid for learning throws with doubles...
Congrats and thanks Dentrassi.
Have a kittern
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ado-p
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28/09/04 11:04 PM
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psssttt durbs
its coz its a contact staff thread....
Dentrassi,
Nice work dude, very nice indeed.
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Durbs
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29/09/04 12:48 AM
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Ahhhh - my bad
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29/09/04 01:18 AM
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wow, there's suddenly a lot more thread links... Nice one Dentrassi...
I like that the past is all nicely laid out and organised. Now we can get on with making up the future...
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UsedCarOnlyFord
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29/09/04 01:26 AM
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:claphands:
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29/09/04 02:37 AM
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i think u definately need to add
http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi
to the videos list.
the yahoo group got deleted by yahoo as nothing was posted there for ages.
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29/09/04 03:11 AM
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Yes, definitely needs to be added. Was one of the first staff vids i saw and it helped me out a lot. Especially with new ideas and what you can really do with a staff. Plus all the other nifty stuff on it! Glass rocks! So do you Ben! Big hug to all my staff brethren and sistren! 
Mayhem
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29/09/04 02:11 PM
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well done Dentrassi!
Josh
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29/09/04 11:14 PM
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ooo so much to read 
Thanx for taking the time to do all this, nice and eezy to follow too!
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Dentrassi
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30/09/04 02:43 AM
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thanx all! happy reading.
have slipped in the link to the glass vid.
right. im going out into to the late night rain to work out more silly doubles combos.
incidently, if anyone see's mech around - go up and hump his leg for me. i finally finished wicking the contact staff he made when he was staying here - and its an absolutely dream to play with [the staff, not mech ].
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21/10/04 07:53 AM
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wicked thread dentrassi!
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10/02/05 11:59 AM
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*bump*
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10/02/05 09:22 PM
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nice on on the thread ed
i can just see you now sitting at your dads machine like the good old days in your shorts and huge socks, working the night away while i sleep like a log in the next room 
this is a really col thread man
cheers
ps hows you and your lady?
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16/02/06 11:30 PM
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Most useful, and we wouldn't want it to disappear.
*bump*
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17/02/06 09:27 AM
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One of the mods should sticky this. Its far too useful to let fall into the mirky depths of the staff forum. God only knows what else is lurking down there.
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ducky2108
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17/02/06 11:02 PM
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How do we go about this, or will the mods just read this and think "yeah, great idea". Do we have to infor anyone?
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18/02/06 05:21 AM
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I notified the mods (if thats the right thing to do) so hopefuly the thread will get stickied.
Thanks again to the mods
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18/02/06 09:30 AM
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Well, it'll either get it stcikied, deleted or we'll all be told off for being naughty and stuff.
We live in hope for the first option.
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