Double-Staff throws (Both staffs thrown)

So far, i've had no success at all.

Well, not strictly true, I've managed to simultaneously and alternatingly throw both my practice staffs in the air, but as far as catching the second (or the first :eek , no cigar at all.

I can, just, manage a simultaneous underarm/over shoulder wrap with both but even when the same motion is applied with an inch high throw instead of a wrap it all goes to h*ll.

I'm pretty confident with throwing a single and single wraps while doing doubles, so I'm sure I just need some insight ino the the right technique (and of course, lots and lots of practice).

Can anyone help me with some simple double's throws, or anything easy and funky to help me on my way with long doubles...

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Charles (INFERNO)

have each staff twirling vertically at each side, stall as one end of each comes behind your shoulders, bring the staves forward and flick the wrists to have both staves do a single high loop and land flat back in the hands.

far out my descriptions are bad. sorry.

basically the staves stay precisely on the vertical plane either side of the body and loop, as opposed to spin.

Thanks flash, do you mean like an underarm shoulder wrap but higher and traveling up and down nose first (leading edge) like a plane?

(might be time to ressurect my naming staff moves threads,( where's Cantus when you need him...).

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Charles (INFERNO)

credit where its due - thats Kate's move - although I can do it a bit more reliably (still not what I would call reliable tho) than her.

staves going backwards on either side ofthe body reverse hand roll to get the reverse grip (uncentred) then throw both simultaneously up for a loop then catch both in a reverse grip. I cant do it very well (yet), but I'm getting there. My doubles stuff is getting more interesting as I sift through all the techniques I learned on the weekend...ahh...

I don't know if you are doing rotors or figure8's, I'm guessing a loop is where the staff spins along it's length instead of a central axis.

And what's a reverse catch? ...

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Charles (INFERNO)

None of them are at any point which I can confidently say I wish to share them with you yet.

Give it a few days and I might

Erm, Katinca does staff and poi in combination.
I keep meaning to try it. There's no time like the present I spose.....
I'll do it tomorrow/today - I have to wake up in few hours, I'll start doing it then (it's 5.50am here)

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C@ntus

Can someone give me some more hints on simultaneous throws with double staffs, rather than just telling me how much beter you all are (I knew that beforehand).

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Charles (INFERNO)

(looks innocently at the sky )

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Charles (INFERNO)

no matter how hard I try I just can't seem to get a simultaneous throw going, unless it is starting with both staffs in one hand.

Geting there with a Between The Leg throw while doing doubles, any other ideas guys?????

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Charles (AKA INFERNO)

practice twirling, throwing and catching 2 clubs. I think its easier, and it gives you a good way to practice with a chance of actually catching them both

Other than that its all in the throw(s). double throws are much easier if the releases are exactly the same.

i am also trying double throws. i find that alternating the throws with the 'same' release is where the smoothest "feel" is.

the only way i have ever made progress is by just resigning myself to getting clubbed in the head by the returning-to-earth pole/s.

then occasionally i get a catch and i start learning...

...ouch. and the worst of it is, with Poi the crowd always go nuts, with poles they're like "wtf? i seen that on TV. it must be simple..."

um. when i get a DV cam and firewire etc i'll try to set us up the video to show - i can't explain.

cheers charlie boy, picked up the doubles (with which Ive been a little dissintrested) and fould a double throw. Same as the swapover really (passing the staffs simultainiously infront of you) with both staffs doing backwards figure eights but instead of going over the staffs go straight up and down. If you get the weak hand running the same as the strong hand then all you got to worry about is getting them far enoungh apart so they dont clash and catching is no problem if they are syncronised.

Needless to say I aint really nailed this one yet, but this thread has got me back on the doubles.

Love

The only simultaneaous thrpow i can catch is holding both staffs in one hand, upswinging them in front of me, letting go and then moving to the side so i can catch them both with my palms facings down...

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Charles (AKA INFERNO)

if both staffs are uniformly thrown then you dont have to watch thm both as they are both doing the same thing, make the catches simultainious and concentrate on your weak hand. thats about it for me.

Hmm, this thread is getting hard to follow again, I'll see if I can start up another naming moves thread, my descriptions are getting sloppy again...

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Charles (AKA INFERNO)

:hopes it wasnt said before cause he quickly scanned most of the posts:

for me at least, my greatest problem is ineptitude of the left hand, it does not like catching, and the only way ive managed to attain a semblance of simultaneous throws is to sit there with just a staff in my left hand and just sit there and practice with that till it can do it well, then go for both at the same time...

oh, and a trick i really wanna learn that involves simultaneou throws is as follows...

start going in an alternate double rotor...

(one staff rotates in front of you while the other rotates behind)

when on is behind throw that one over your shoulder and catch it in front of you...

at the same time, throw the one in front of you over your shoulder and catch it behind you...

now that would be sick...

:prepares for many bruises on both sides of head: