Jaeden
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Re: The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread  find similar
09/06/03 09:48 AM
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I finally finnished my move!!! ![[Smile]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif)
I didn't know what it was before as I would kinda stop halfway through but I actually finnished it last night. Now I think I know what it is. 'twould be something like a 360-fountain. Start from a forward 5-beat. Turn 180 while at the same time bringing your hands over your head for a windmill. This is where I had used to stop. From there, continue on with your 360 and bring your hands back down for a 5-beat forward weave. Forward 5-beat => 180 turn to 2-beat windmill => another 180 turn (making it a full 360) and back down to a 3/5-beat forward weave.
This sequence is the smoothest thing I have ever done with my poi. Once you go into it you can basicly let go concious control of your arms and the move will just do itself. When if first did the full 360 I was hit with such an intense burst of euphoria that I fell down.
Split-time ttn's were all in order too. I know that I have allready forgotten most of the new things I did with this, but basicly if I could do it with a weave, I could also do it s/t-ttn.
I don't believe in inventing new moves (don't believe in moves period when you get right down to it). I think it's more of a discovery. It's less you built the path for the poi and more you found the path allready there. It's not as though through my practice I've change the laws of physics and now poi can move in a new direction.
at least, that's how i see it...
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JinX
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09/06/03 11:26 AM
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I don't believe in inventing new moves (don't believe in moves period when you get right down to it). I think it's more of a discovery. It's less you built the path for the poi and more you found the path allready there. It's not as though through my practice I've change the laws of physics and now poi can move in a new direction.
nice words.
someone, if you are turning 180 degrees i think you are just doing a high turn with crossed chains, but i dont have my poi with me so i cant check, ill check later and get back to you
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Jaeden
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09/06/03 11:42 AM
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hm, to clairify: you turn with the poi. your hands are not tangled in any way at the top.
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Little_Miss_Nebula
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09/06/03 02:11 PM
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BTB Butterfly! AT LAST! ![[Eek!]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif) ![[Razz]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif)
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09/06/03 10:02 PM
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hey jinx
i'm not turning with my poi.
i just keep still.
![[Idea]](/ubbthreads/graemlins/ubbidea.gif) however, now that i think about it, if i turned i would probably be doing what you mentioned!
a clarification: while the right hand poi makes a clockwise half-circle the left hand poi makes an anti-clockwise half-circle.
and jaeden, if you refer to my move,no, hands are not tangled at the top. you can keep your hands above the shoulders and chains cross behind your head...or you can bring your hands close to each other above your head!
that's all... ![[Roll Eyes]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/rolleyes.gif)
(i hope i don't make many mistakes as far as the language is concerned and you can understand what i'm saying ![[umm]](/ubbthreads/graemlins/umm.gif) )
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SomeOne
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09/06/03 10:07 PM
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jaeden.....i just saw your previous message and i realised you clarify your own move... ![[LOL]](/ubbthreads/graemlins/ubblol.gif)
sorry
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coleman
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09/06/03 10:08 PM
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shoulder snakes with poi.
they work fine and unlike clubs you don't need to throw off to get back into another one - you can just keep isolating, turn around and bring them back up on the other side.
keep messing up the inward ones though.
temporarily having only one poi may be annoying but it seems it pays off sometimes ![[Wink]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif)
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10/06/03 03:05 AM
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cole, sorry, just to errmm....
shoulder snakes!!!!!!!!!!
how?
T
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coleman
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10/06/03 03:29 AM
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yo tom
i do them exactly the same way as with clubs.
the poi doesn't sit on you arm like a club does but i've found recently that doing snakes at a decent speed, there's very little arm contact with clubs either.
first i learnt to spin outward shoulder snakes as part of (outward) reels (all learnt with clubs).
then i tried it with a poi.
they don't look as crazy with poi as you can just keep them going - essentially they're just one circle of isolation behind the arm followed by a circle of isolation in front of the arm, all out to your side (in the wall plane) starting at shoulder height.
there's lots there that isn't there with clubs (see variation above) but its early days yet -
so far i can only properly spin outward ones and only with my right arm. ![[Angel]](/ubbthreads/graemlins/ubbangel.gif)
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11/06/03 01:12 PM
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Isolated weave..both variants side to side,
(4,5 beat) infront,turn...
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12/06/03 01:44 AM
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RIIIIIGHT... where are thoease socks....... <stomps off to practice>
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DTKB
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12/06/03 03:16 AM
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I rawk!!
Okay well that's a bit extreme but just searched for fountains and found out that I've been doing them and many variations for 6 months!! Yippeeee!!!!
If only I can get forward hyperloops, reverse 5 beat weave and 7 beat forward weave I'll be a happy chick...
*tweet*
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Glåss
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12/06/03 03:26 AM
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wow. Nirvana is cheap nowdays.
If only I could find happiness so easily.
Nice one ![[Big Grin]](/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif)
oops off topic.
erm ok I've been working on inverted pendulums
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12/06/03 11:17 AM
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3 beat weave! In an odd way... instead of your poi doing one beat on the same side, two on the crossed over side, they do two on the same side and one on the crossed over side. And you can lead with either hand...
--ben
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spiralx
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12/06/03 10:34 PM
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Interesting idea... I'll have to try that out at some point.
Just got reverse isolated weaves
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12/06/03 10:58 PM
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Just got the "Phoenix wing" a.k.a...
btb alt arm butterfly elbow wraps, thank u glowstring boyz.
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Oh and double neck wraps, again glowstring boyz.
[ 12. June 2003, 23:04: Message edited by: Raging Dragon ]
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13/06/03 01:42 AM
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Figured out the snakes with poi, just got to be able to do them now......
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15/06/03 10:41 AM
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Been spinning for 6 months and could do the butterfly every way but one-handed...until now ![[Roll smile]](/ubbthreads/graemlins/ubbrollimages/icons/smile.gif) I tried a reverse one-handed butterfly first which was easier than the forward but which demonstrated the motion my hands should be in
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MrConfused
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15/06/03 10:09 PM
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More btl moves Finally worked out how to turn pretty much every way with either poi entering from front or back, btl weave turns both ways in front and btb. Btl butterfly turn consistancy is still eluding me, and some of the planes are a bit sloppy after a few continuous turns, but I've got to have something to work on
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Beth
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22/06/03 01:44 AM
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As ive only been doing poi for about 3 weeks (on and off) i cant do too much. But yesterday i got the windmill and the one-handed butterfly!! Was sooo happy! Just need to practice them now
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22/06/03 02:22 AM
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My shoulders hurt.
I have sunburn.
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22/06/03 07:36 AM
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btl?? behind the leg or something???
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MrConfused
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22/06/03 11:09 PM
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between the legs
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Lixtrim
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23/06/03 03:38 AM
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awww thanks..must goo out pratice btl now cant stop selfe meep meep wrooom
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Beth
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24/06/03 05:35 AM
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BTB butterfly happy me!
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