Backward Weave?? hmmm

Well, my problem is the backward weave, i have been trying all morning to pull it off, but no matter what i do they always end up spinning forward doing a forward weave I have looked at the lesson for it on this site, and studyed the person's hands in the video, but i just cant seem to get it. I know if i can find an easy way to start it off i will get into, so does anyone have any suggestions? Im starting to get quite fustrated now

If you work on that for a while you will work out the timing when to cross your hands and so on.

When I started to learn backwards weave I gave up and had a go a few days later as I'd been going over it in my head for a while it clicked and I could do it.

Mental preparation can be useful too ya know.

i don't know how clear my explaination is. i wish i could draw pictures to show you what i mean but . . .

good luck

mainly:
* Start learning this by starting with only one Poi. Hold the empty arm out in front of you.
* Start swinging the Poi in a backward rotation.
* Then swing the Poi across your body and under your other arm for one rotation.
* Then another rotation, spinning the Poi still crossing your body but this time swing over the other arm
* Then swing the Poi uncrossing the body out to it's original side.

This teaches you the order the hands need to move in.

Also try this, which I worked out teaching to others, useful for learning forwards and backwards weaves:
* Swing the Poi in the which ever direction, split time.
* Cross over so that your hands are crossed over and stay like that.
* Using the arm that is underneath do a figure of 8 over to the other side, looping your arm over the other arm.
* Practice with both arms and then speed up, eventually this leads to a weave.

Unfortunately I'm sat in the office and might get dodgy looks if I try to confirm that's all correct for the backwards weave as well as forwards!

You will whack yourself in the head a few times, but once I'd worked out how to turn into it, I could then see how to get into from other situations.

My advice is to hold the good arm straight out in front of you and practice swinging the poi over, under & out with the other hand (don't forget this is a three beat move - over,under,out).

When your proficient at this try putting the routine back together with both poi swinging. If this doesn't help, try swinging both the poi parallel at your sides in reverse, then stagger the beat, then with the leading hand bring the poi across your body over the opposite hand, and begin to 'chase' that poi with the corresponding hand.

Hope this is helpful, if not another description can be found at http://www.geocities.com/firepoi/ - just select backwards weave from the moves list.

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But if you realy have to try and learn from reverse spin at your sides, I think the cross-over is as the poi go up from the bottom, if my brain remembers correctly!

In other words Zeduah, the reason your arm is getting in the way is because you can't go directly into a three beat, you have to start from a two beat (even if that two beat lasts only half of a set-one full set being left and right sides combined) in other words, 2 left, 3 right, 3 left, 3 right.

So... when you start a three beat reverse weave the first crossing arm should pass OVER the opposite hand on the "first half of the first set ONLY" (thus doing a two beat), BUT every cross over afterwards is done by bringing the crossing arm UNDER the opposite arm first. In other words start with a two beat first and from that you can do a three beat, it is the only way possible.

1.: Drop your Poi on the ground
2.: Walk inside, or in the garage, and go searching for 2 sticks. Not glosticks (those may work too), but sticks about 15" long.
3.Walk back outside and start doing the move you want. But this time, do it in slomotion.
Figure out in your mind how the move will have to go, and do it very very slowly with your sticks. Just keep the basics and the move in your head and pick up the Poi again, and do the move as slowly as possible (so that the Poi wont 'fall'). If it works, youll be able to speed up and remember the move right.
Worked a lot for me, so mebbe u ppl can use it.

i mean, i could do the 5bt like months ago but still not the rvs 5bt simply because i keep hitting myself in the face! its coming though, i got the rvs 4 bt, and doing with clubs really helped.

once you got it, you got a whole load of combos you can do, and poi'ing starts getting really really fun! so good luck!

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I just helped someone who was struggling with rvs weave get it just yesterday, and she was having exactly the same problem you are.

you say you can do it on one side, but when you go to the other, it just switches to fwd (kind of behind you)...

ok - so when you are spinning at your sides, learn how to start the weave on the side that tries to switch. bring your bad hand up to speed with the movement, and your good hand will just follow along.

So start the rvs weave on your bad side. concentrate on where the poi need to go.

Use two short sticks, that the best way to learn this stuff.

Good luck,

and thanks it's nice to know that people actually look at them.