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#110817 - 12/01/01 07:02 AM 5 Beat weaves
Timmy Offline
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Registered: 11/01/01
Loc: Bishop's Stortford, UK
Has any-one managed to do a 5 beat weave behind their back? Any hints, as I keep coming close, but then almost killing myself!

All help greatly appriciated,

Tim /|\


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#110818 - 15/01/01 05:31 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Jo Offline
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Registered: 13/12/00
Loc: Sheffield, England
Yes I can do it, but only backwards. God it hurts.
I've found the best way to do it is to turn so your facing away from the poi, then when you change to the other side you have to proper thrash youur body around 180 degrees. I don't do it in performances because it looks ugly and doesn't add anything to my performance.

the normal 5 beat chase, when combined with quad windmills and corkscrews, makes everything look oh-so-smooth, but behind the back it doesn't because you have to throw yourself around like a paraletic.

good luck, let me know how its going coz I would like to get it going round a bit better too.
Jo.

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#110819 - 15/01/01 06:08 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
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Registered: 13/12/00
Loc: Sheffield, England
For some reason, I can't edit my last message.

You inspired me to perfect it (my sides are now in agony...)
You only need to tease your body round (perhaps not 90 degrees, maybe 60) as you are getting your extra beats in. You can then move back round and 60 degrees in the other direction at a constant speed. It's really the same movement needed when you first do the bhtb chase, but much more exaggerated. I think the movement could be reduced the more you do it, well thats what happened with the 3 beat version anyway.

I'm gunna try to get it forwards so I can do it circular. Should be fun.
Jo.

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#110820 - 15/01/01 08:48 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
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Registered: 12/12/00
Loc: London, UK
oh no!!! just as i finally got the 3-beat one, now the 5-beat one??? grrrrr i'll never find peace of mind with you guys out there! well i don't think i can do it right now but if anyone gets it let me know, i am very curious to find out if it's possible and how difficult it is... i'll go practise the 3-beat one a bit more!
happy swinging,
Simos

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#110821 - 15/01/01 09:07 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Timmy Offline
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Registered: 11/01/01
Loc: Bishop's Stortford, UK
I just about managed to get it in a circular form, but I CAN'T do it in one position!! (Grrrr.....) And now, as I've spent so long trying that, my body seems to refuse to remember how to do a 3 beat one!! Oh well, back to the drawing board!

Good luck people,
Tim /|\


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#110822 - 15/01/01 02:22 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Pele Moderator Offline
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Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
So are we talking contortionism or masochism here???? Yes it can be done with a bit of movement and alot of yoga. I haven't got it perfectly smooth, either way we look at it but hey, the point is, we're trying!
With sore muscles and a smile...

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#110823 - 15/01/01 04:28 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
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Registered: 22/12/00
Loc: london, england
i can do a seven beat weave and include a hop where one of the beats spins under my foot.
erm, no. actually, what is a 5 beat weave? i looked at somebod's explanation (jo, i think)at some point but could not work it out. i am fine with 3 beat weave and circular, learning bhtb.
anyone got a nice explanation for the slow kid?

ta
o-o


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#110824 - 15/01/01 05:34 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Simos Offline
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Registered: 12/12/00
Loc: London, UK
o-o a 5-beat weave is basically a weave with an extra revolution of the Poi on each side - take the 3-beat weave; your right poi does one revolution on the right side and 2 on the left, isn't it? (3-beat) for the 5-beat one it should be doing 2 revolutions on your right and 3 on your left side...this is achieved by twisting your wrists around each other - it's very easy to do when doing it forwards and at least for me, much harder to do in reverse, and btb it seems impossible!!!
happy swinging,
Simos

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#110825 - 31/01/01 07:41 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Alan Offline
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Registered: 13/03/01
Loc: Saline, MI, USA
my glow stick swinging mentor Alex called me up today and said he finally got the 7 beat weave! Ive seen him do it on one side making 6 revolutions on each side and its crazy!
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#110826 - 31/01/01 08:58 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Jeff Duncan Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
Loc: sidney, bc, canada
Yes last weekend i got a 7 beat weave

all you do is cross your arms at the elbows and wrap your wrists around as far as they go

lean into your last 2 revolutions on each side

turning 60-90 degrees helps a bit


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#110827 - 31/01/01 02:08 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Anonymous
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12 beat weave instructions.

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I'm so hard.

here's how it goes.

do your 3 beat weave til your comfortable.

Then instead of bringing it across, keep it there and let the poi wrap around each other til they are almost out of momentum, then switch em to the other side

let em unwind.

if you start with a cranking 3 beat, you should be able to pull off at least 12 perside.

have fun.

<this was sort of a joke by the way>

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#110828 - 31/01/01 03:19 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Simos Offline
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Registered: 12/12/00
Loc: London, UK
it's funny that there are people out there that do a 7-beat weave - the best i could do was try to do it by wrapping the string around my hand; i 'll go try more i guess!!!
happy swinging,
Simos

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#110829 - 14/02/01 12:01 AM Re: 5 Beat weaves
o-o Offline
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Registered: 22/12/00
Loc: london, england
thanx simos,

gonna go hurt myself some more with my 'ninja' poi. light bike cable with wicks. i guess if i screw up i might garotte myself and have to get a mechanical arm

o-o


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#110830 - 13/02/01 05:37 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
protozoa Offline
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Registered: 02/02/01
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
Wooooooooooooooo!!!

I _just_ got the 5-beat-weave down good! Hooray hooray hooray!!!

I never thought I'd get it. I thought I'd hit a plateau and would never learn another trick. Yippeeeeee!!!

Had to share, thanks all.


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#110831 - 13/02/01 06:02 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
adamrice Offline
poo-bah

Registered: 19/12/00
Loc: Austin TX USA
Gee, Protie, maybe you can explain *how* you got it. I've been bashing myself silly working on it. But I've just about got the btb weave down.

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#110832 - 13/02/01 10:16 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Anonymous
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Yeah, explain. That would help me out too. I have the weave down perfect but the 5 beat weave continues to elude me.

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#110833 - 13/02/01 11:20 PM Re: 5 Beat weaves
Finn Offline
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Registered: 23/12/00
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
I'd love to know to. I can do the 4 beat chase (well I think it's 4 beats) but the 5 beat chase eludes me. I haven't seen anyone do it before (which I find helps me) so I've been trying to do it based on what I can see on the animation here on home of poi. It's really hard to see what the hands are meant to be doing. I know they have to wrap around each other but.....

Help!!!

[This message has been edited by Finn (edited 13 February 2001).]


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