3 seperate styles of staff twirling

it seems staff twirling has evolved into three main categories

Contact staff ,
Staff twirling/firedancing,
Staff juggling(rubber heart style)

Would people agree with this observation?

I would agree that there seam to be, seperate styles, but the fact is that every one has thier own style, and altho i cant follow one of the above, most mix them together to great effect.

the best thing to watch, appart from someone really good, is some one really enjoying them selves. but im just a young/old hippy at heart :P (well not really)

Thats really hard.
Does double contact come under contact, and straight forward doubles go under twirling, cos really I think they should have their own category.

I reckon just watching one staff being wizzed around in circles can be mesmorising but watching someone spin for 5 mins without even touching the staff with their hands is awsome. Not sure you can really compare.
If you ask the question "which is best to watch" I think you'd get better results from non-fire spinners.

Personally Id rather spin than watch LOL!

lol me too,i love it all but contact done well is i think the most mesmerising.

antti's new contact video is a classic,he puts in some nice throwsand its very clean

Flame boy's right, fire spinners are going to be completely biased into saying that whatever style they prefer is best, which might be something completely different from a non fire twirling audience.

Maybe Ive just been heavily involved with fire staffs too long, but I find spinning tricks completely boring, unless the person is an amazing dancer of course, but everyone would have to agree fast spinning with really simple tricks is often a big crowd winner.

Spinniny tricks are great for an audience (especially doubles). Contact is amazingly impressive to those who stick play because of its difficulty level.

I love watching people who are enjoying their spinning. whether they are doing a few simple figure 8's or matrix's.

lol @ contact fixation!
what on earth did staffers perform before contact twirling was popularised?
i like to eat pickles, but it's silly to eat it to the exclusion of everything else.
i like contact twirling, however there's more to staff...

very true bender it hink all styles of staff are valid both for performance and fun,the more crossovers between different styles we see the better,
i agree also a good dancer who can also twirl well is great to watch,
i think one reason i like to watch contact staff is because i dont do it,so i can watch it less critically than i might watch twirling or juuggling staffs,
i just love staff full stop.
destroy all poi

Contact staff potentially encompasses both "normal" twirling and staff juggling moves, whilst progressing both these forms with the addition of more control points and a greater variety of staff motions. This potential,for me at least, makes it superior.

Although i clicked on contact in the above........ im not sure i agree on the whole seporate style thing....

Yes these are differant terminology for types of moves but i do not feel as though they each dictate a style...

Spinny spinny staff for me is much the same as contact staff - its essencially a similar move just done closer to the body - take halos for instance - push them away from your shoulders and you have a pinwheel.

Just using throws as a style of staff - i cant see either, i think we leave that to the jugglers

Staff twriling in itself for me is an amalgamation of all of the above termed "styles" - when you single out a move to learn - it can be catagorised - but to spin a good spin i believe you need to use all of them to flow from one movenet to the next........

The idea is not to be static i guess, which concentrating on one "style" could lead to

Good subject mind

Couldn't say it better. it's basically an incorporation of everything. yes there are different aspects but hey everybodies different.

who cares about what you do with the staff? It's what you do with your body that's important...

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i'm not sure I agree with the categories, in my opinion it's missing acrobatics and techy spinning. Also staff juggling to me implies 2 or more staffs which opens open a whole can of worms in terms of categories.

anyway to keep things simple lets say staff juggling is just single staff throws. In my experence people who are considered contact staffer infact do alot more than just contact and when you see them spin (not practise but spin) they'll generally combine and all three categories and maybe abit more. So in conclusion (be warned this has nothing to do with what i've said so far) I like anything thats done well, weather it sticks to one category or five

OMG! Like, after that one anecdote, you opinion MUST be true!

In my opinion, contact is soo hard, it teaches you spinning by accident.

i agree with ether

mcp, she talk the rubbish, cos she's too in love with contact.

How on earth does anybody learn to do contact with out being able to spin? You have to spin the staff to start off contact moves...

bah, like you need more than figure 8.

Thats typical of your blinkered and incredibly narrow view of spinning meg. Just something to do inbetween contact eh?

I've just gone throught the last five pages of the "i learned a new staff move" thread

1 post about throws
3 posts about fingerspins
4 posts about spinning (all from beginners)
54 posts about contact (*yawn*)

oh, but of course we're all perfectly balanced in our style round here