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#726016 - 26/04/06 09:13 PM "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release
Mr_Chutney Online   content
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Hello all.

I don't often have much to offer by the way of new or interesting ideas, but hopefully this will set a few cogs turning

'Stands' as I have come to call them are the result of accidents discovered when messing with releases- I'm sure many have inadvertently done them, but I thought I'd try and push them as a 'trick' in their own right.

SO- the idea is that you would pull off a stand (in this version at least) by spinning 1 poi right handclockwise (BF plane). Usually I would release this under an outstretched left arm around which it would circle and them return to be caught on the right hand side by the right hand.

Standing the poi means a different approach to the release, letting go later and giving the (probably best counterweighted) handle a flick. If you spin the head under the opposite arm and to the point where the head is at about 10-11 o clock, gently contact catch it on the back of the left hand whilst releasing and flicking the handle.

If done correctly you get a lazy stalled poi, standing on the back of your hand, slowly rotating on to be caught or moved further.

I can get close to a nice affect with my right hand relasing, but so far I have yet to take the principle further (for example doing the same thing on the legs?)

Ideas?


Edited by Mr Chutney (26/04/06 11:39 PM)

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#726017 - 26/04/06 10:25 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Mr_Chutney]
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Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Ballybrack, Dublin
Do you conatct catch the head or the handle.

You have given me a lot of ideas anyway.
I now want to land the head on the back of my hand and catch the handle at 12 o'clock.... maybe that's what you mean....

You'll drive me mad I tell you....
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#726018 - 26/04/06 11:09 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: DeepSoulSheep]
Dunc Offline
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Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
Did you see me doing these at Falmouth? Been at them for quite a while now and like you found them by accident.

If you get your props nice Chut you can change the prop so you go from Prop to "Stand" to Prop on the same/other arm.

I like the name stand

You should see how long you can make them stand for. You can get a surprisingly long time if you start high and end low Or if you start low and then continue the circle up-across-down with your left hand it's a really nice looking move

There's discussion in here somewhere about these, I'll be damned if I can find it tho or remember the terms to search, I think it was Glass who was on about them.....

And remembering your poi.....use longer ones for exagerated effect


Edited by Dunc (26/04/06 11:11 PM)
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#726019 - 26/04/06 11:38 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dunc]
Mr_Chutney Online   content
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
How random- I figured they were already known, just hadn't really seen them mentioned (but them I'm not terribly old skool )

I didn't see you playing with them at Fal, though I did have a bit of a play with them myself down there on Sunday in the pub beer garden. Oh well, something to try and collar you for at Play (are you going to have any time to you think, or are you going to be the shadow that you were at the last one- I know you were darned busy )

As for the length of my poi- yeah, I know what you're saying, but I'm getting into all sorts of contacty stuff and with a bit of effort they're working just fine- always been a bit of a short poi bod

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#726020 - 26/04/06 11:38 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Mr_Chutney]
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Registered: 03/09/01
Loc: High Wycombe, England
 Written by: Mr Chutney


Ideas?



Yep - do them antispin

If I'm understanding the text right, I might have seen Dom doing something similar, they look pretty damned cool.
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#726021 - 27/04/06 12:51 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
[Nx?] Offline
Scoiattolo de mare

Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
i dont really understand

T
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#726022 - 27/04/06 01:47 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: [Nx?]]
Dunc Offline
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Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
Tom, when you release a poi most of the time the handle rotates around the head yeah (more so with weighted handles) Now imagine that the head stayed perfectly still while the tail rotates around during the throw.

If the head was sat on the back of your hand while the tail rotated that'd be what Chut is on about

Bov...antispin isn't really any harder than normal Which makes a nice change!

Chut....happy birthday!!! Did do anything fun?
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#726023 - 27/04/06 03:02 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dunc]
oli Offline
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Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
do them on your forehead... looks sweet .. only works sometimes though...
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#726024 - 27/04/06 03:18 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: oli]
Dunc Offline
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Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
I forgot I saw you do them on your forehead at Falmouth!! tee hee hee, it was funny watching you smack yourself in the face...repeatedly have you tried doubles off your forehead yet?
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#726025 - 27/04/06 09:53 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Mr_Chutney]
Dut Offline
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Registered: 22/03/02
Loc: Nashville, TN
 Written by: Mr Chutney



Ideas?



wave your hand around underneath like you're fishtailing it!!

"oooh! aaaaahhh!"

do much contact juggling?


Edited by Dut (27/04/06 09:54 AM)

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#726026 - 27/04/06 10:12 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dut]
[Nx?] Offline
Scoiattolo de mare

Registered: 05/11/01
Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both
ahh, i get it, nice move.

*sigh* one day i guess im gonna have to weight my handles...

T
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#726027 - 27/04/06 11:12 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: [Nx?]]
TheWibbler Offline
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Registered: 11/04/03
Loc: New Zealand
Sweet as, will definitely play with this, i second the name 'stands', but then would that make it a 'Hand Stand' lol, or oli's 'Head Stand'

Laters

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#726028 - 27/04/06 08:46 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: TheWibbler]
Dunc Offline
PLAY to your heart's content

Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
head stand, hand stand, foot stand, leg stand, or even a mic stand, band stand or a mexican stand off

Chut, I hearby issue you with the request, neigh, the command, to do a stand workshop at PLAY That'll give you something to get yer teeth stuck into over the next couple months
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#726029 - 27/04/06 09:01 PM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dunc]
Mr_Chutney Online   content
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
Oooooh you git

I'm not good at them, I just wanted to ecourage playing with them

Maybe I'll do a stalls workshop and put stands in as a bonus extra?

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#726030 - 28/04/06 12:43 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Mr_Chutney]
Dunc Offline
PLAY to your heart's content

Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
You have two months to get good at them
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#726031 - 30/04/06 05:39 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dunc]
Puresock Offline
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Registered: 22/06/04
Loc: Sydney, Australia
It would be very, very nice if you could pull off a hand stand with the head, and then a stand on the other hand with the handle, keeping the poi spinning in the same direction the whole time.
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#726032 - 30/04/06 07:28 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Puresock]
Dunc Offline
PLAY to your heart's content

Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
eh?
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#726033 - 01/05/06 09:21 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Dunc]
Motley Offline
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Registered: 09/10/05
I've been attempting something similar recently although trying to "stand" the poi on my head. I've had varying degrees of sucess but i cant seem to get them consistant, seems to look pretty cool if u can pull it off tho, I'll have to have a go standing on my hands.. umm... the poi that is, not me

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#726034 - 02/05/06 09:57 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: Motley]
VampyricAcid Offline
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Registered: 27/06/05
Loc: My House
runs away to decide what a "Mexican Stand Off" should look like!

yeah ive been playing with these, very weird and very fun!!!
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#726035 - 02/05/06 11:07 AM Re: "Stands" - Half way between a stall and a release [Re: VampyricAcid]
gizmo2009 Offline
technical flow

Registered: 30/01/06
Loc: south wales
same here,, ive been "standing" one on the peak of my hat lol.. but those hand stands sound great ,,

*runs off to try a cpl of hand stands* :P

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