Fine_Rabid_Dog
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What ever you do, don't go taking me seriously 
Why the hell is philosphy reserved only for poi?
"Poi is life"...... where the hell is staff in that equation? 
Poi gets all the "There is no move" BS... what do we get? Nowt.
S'not fair. I want to be able to terrify newbies with such confusing words of wisdom, but yet there doesn't seem to be any spiritual side to staff... Lame!
Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? Is it beacuse philosophy is reserved only for the wussier side of object manipulation?
Should I just shut the hell up before I get lynched?
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Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog
Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads?
 dude............wft 
Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog
Should I just shut the hell up before I get lynched?
Take your own advice.............. 
As far as the spiritual mind of wisdom and wonder of a staffer........have you not read any of bens posts 
Go and educate yourself boy!!
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Fine_Rabid_Dog
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27/09/05 01:08 AM
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Written by: strugz
Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog
Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads?
dude............wft
Like I said, don't go taking me seriously. This is a bit tounge in cheek. I myself am a staffer. I dont like poi much at all 
I don't believe staffers are meat heads at all. I just think its interesting that there's not much "deep" stuff being said about staff, where as they all seem to love flashing it about in the poi sections
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27/09/05 01:12 AM
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ok man fair enuf.......
my guess would be staffers dont waste time talking bollox
Besides why make soemthing more complicated than it already is, concentrate on hardass moves, leave the deep philosophy to the poiers 
In life there are thinkers and there are do-ers - which one are you
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Fine_Rabid_Dog
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27/09/05 01:16 AM
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Neither, I'm as lazy as hell, and I ain't too bright
I agree that the philosophy makes stuff more complicated than it really needs to be. I also reckon its a fair comment to call it all bollox
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27/09/05 01:18 AM
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Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog
I also reckon its a fair comment to call it all bollox
wise words there FRD - you should become a philosopher
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27/09/05 01:27 AM
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here is some contact dance philosophy to get you started:
ben-ja-men' s contact dancy thread
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27/09/05 01:30 AM
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yeah, and like, dude, do you EVER read bender's posts? there's another one...
I'm actually the most annoyed about guff's disapeerence cause i was asking some questions of him (bender) at the time it was taken off, and he always has very useful things to say
 
but yeah, i think you're just not looking in the right places....
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27/09/05 01:31 AM
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no. you are both wrong
(edit: writing that 2 posts behind, talking to FRD and Strugz. Kyrian's post is probably wrong too, i just haven't read it yet )
there are good reasons to think about things you do. It helps you come up with new ways of looking at the stuff you do, which can lead to different ways of doing the things that you were doing before, but in such a way that their "doingness" is more related to the reason you were doing them in the first place. And stuff like that.
In other matters:
There are no moves?
There are lots of moves
However, they're far outnumbered by stuff that isn't moves.
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27/09/05 01:32 AM
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Written by: simian
In other matters:
There are no moves
There are lots of moves
However, they're far outnumbered by stuff that isn't moves.
and there this thread ends
nuff said
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27/09/05 01:34 AM
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Written by: Ben-ja-men
There is an essence to each movement this essence is what makes it beautiful, the closer to the true essence the movement the more beautiful it is.
I'm quoting this here to avoid taking that thread off topic
Whoah... Thats a bit Plato - World of the Forms right there. The whole essence thing, and the moves already existing. Very much like Plato's theory that everything already has a form (the perfect form, basically a blueprint) and everything is just a particular of the original form. But most things only have the essence, or the qualities, of the original form.
Does this mean we can never reach staff perfection?
damn it!
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27/09/05 01:34 AM
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Wow, I was a couple posts behind too... 'tis not all bollox people, just 95% of it...
But simian already did a better job saying it than i'm gonna, so i'll step down
Altho he's being confusing as well....
edit: you guys post too fast!! f*in ell....
the essence stuff sounds too tautology-ish at this time of morning for me tho....
I like the moves quite much better
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27/09/05 01:37 AM
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Written by: Kyrian
Altho he's being confusing as well....
I think thats what I dislike about the whole spinning philosophy thing. Its so damn confusing.
Me being an unintellignet chap, I can barley make head or tail of whats being said by those of the Jedi quality...
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well yeah, but if you just say something simply, then people go "oh, is that it?" and wander off. if you set them a crossword clue then they can get all excited even if you're showing them the obvious.
Plato's forms are a load of rubbish. Especially when applied to staff moves.
although certain variables will increase a movement's aesthetic value. But those variables are arbitrarily set. Eye of the beholder, and whatnot. And is it all about aesthetics anyway? is staff: art, fun or stick? anyone who suggests they are a combination of all three should be given a chilli oil eyebath for stating the obvious when they should be being obtuse\obscure\obese.
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27/09/05 01:50 AM
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Written by: simian
Plato's forms are a load of rubbish.
Agreed. Any bloke that reckons that subjective views and useing your senses are stupid should have unpleasant stuff done to him.
Whilst reason is a useful thing, to use it on its own makes no sense. Science has answered a lot of questions, and its mostly all emperical and stuff. Hooooya! I ain't half off topic
Staff isn't fun! It's life! Duh!
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27/09/05 02:40 AM
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Hey 
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Why not learn poi?
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27/09/05 02:41 AM
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Written by: Stone
Why not learn poi?
I did. And got bored with it fairly quickly.
Poi was the first thing I ever span with. But Staff is what I love
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27/09/05 03:10 AM
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Then take up clubs - potentially all the wierd hippy philosophy type stuff of poi combined with the no-nonsense lack of bendyness of a staff
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27/09/05 03:15 AM
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I love swinging clubs!
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27/09/05 04:39 AM
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Written by: stugz
my guess would be staffers dont waste time talking bollox
what wrong with talking bollox
Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog
Written by: Ben-ja-men
There is an essence to each movement this essence is what makes it beautiful, the closer to the true essence the movement the more beautiful it is.
ok point taken
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Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all C t
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27/09/05 05:26 AM
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The problem is...
Poi are much harder to use than staffs.
They have a life of their own and will happily swing by themselves.
Staffs are stubborn bastards (and often spun by the same too) and won't do anything unless told to.
Contact is just dropping your staff, then trying unsuccesfully to catch it with your elbow.
Thus staff deserves no philosophy other than
"Staff is bonk"
It's no coincidence that staff is one letter away from "stuff", where as poi is only 3 letters away from "art"
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27/09/05 06:56 AM
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Written by: Durbs
Thus staff deserves no philosophy other than
"Staff is bonk"
It's no coincidence that staff is one letter away from "stuff", where as poi is only 3 letters away from "art"
poi is one letter away from poo. Staff is 5 letters away from deity. and for a final fact, durbs is eight letters away from shithead.
Though you're expression of the philosophy of staff was spot on, I couldn't have put it more concisely myself, and I have been studing it for many many years. Obviously staff represents well, and poi the other two bits of the male anatomy and we all know what that means don't we....
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27/09/05 07:00 AM
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Babies?
Or embaressing stains?
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27/09/05 07:05 AM
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that wasn't as funny as my post. (or your previous one)
Didn't actually mean to call you a shithead, I was hoping hop would put a thing there instead to increase the mystery of my insult. Plus 2bags forced me into it. twat.
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