Neat buzzsaw find.

The other day while playing with buzzsaws I found that you can turn a buzzsaw 360 without transitioning to the opposite direction. If youve ever seen one of those crazy AA Yo-Yo videos, you probably know what Im on about. Start with a buzzsaw and begin turning with it, but instead of flipping it to reverse like usual, follow it with your body, almost as if you were doing a sommersalt along with it (although you arent actually doing a summersault). Youll have to basically turn your upper body upside down and then back again.

Although I havent tried it yet, it seems this also has applications in hyperloops. The yo-yo'ers use this to turn their tangled buzzsaw type moves without worrying about extra twists and such.

Anyway, this isnt anything amazing, but was something I figured someone may have a use for.

Sounds like you will need to be an extra supple Poi ninja for that to me.......

Poi somersaults!!

you can do this while in barrel roll style (inverted) buzzsaws to - which is where hyperloops comes in

Oli - I think just partialy

Buzzsaw transition - Well, there is a big story about that. When you want tot turn with Buzzsaw Weave, there are allways, no matter if on the top or bottom, part where bot Poi are outside not inside.

This is the same with BTN Isolation, where you can see, when you turn that there is neither not all the time buzzaw nor Isolation.

To bypass that you can slow the motion as much as possible to get it
or use inversion, but there you just fix one hand inside not both.

The fact is thatt there is no wall plane buzzsaw, only inverted plane or inside plane and those "classic".

o.O

Heh... While I dont really understand most of what youre saying Richee, I can say there are definately wall plane buzzsaws.

errm no,

I agree with richee, there are no wall plane buzzsaws, at least not follow time ones, butterfly yes maybe. but the inital idea is realy inresting.

T

What do you call a buzzsaw fountain?

I LOOOOOVE BUZZSAWS

ICoN: What do you call a buzzsaw fountain?,

Better what do you call Buzzsaw?

When we look at planes "Wall plane":

Outside plane(long arm,thanx Rev)
Wall plane
Inverted plane(inversion)
Inside plane(inside, thanx Rev)
Buzzsaw plane

What about buzzsaw, if buzzsaw is space between arms and body, buzzsaw is inverted and inside plane. (by Coleman)
If buzzsaw is plane and I aim for that. Than because when we stay wheel plane buzzsaw is in the middle,I call it central plane, then when we stay "Wall plane the buzzsaw plane pass through our body".

Resolution:
There is Buzzsaw in Wall plane,
There is Buzzsaw plane Wall plane,but
Poi can pass throught (straight arm) and cant stop.

Any suggestions?

light,

:R

Buzzsaw is its own plane but you can do them in wall plane too... Just like you can do a weave (outside plane) in wall plane. Think of all the buzzsaws, not just the basic one... BTB wall plane buzzsaw (like a waist wrap buzzsaw), between the legs buzzsaw, buzzsaw flowers, etc... Thats all done in buzzsaw wall plane.

To continue the discussion. As I see from you.
Buzzsaw is own plane.
But when I look at moves you continue:
BTB Wall plane Buzzsaw - Its Wheel plane.
Waistwap Buzzsaw -How you meen?
BTL Buzzsaw - Its Wind mill not buzzsaw. Here you can compare with Water Mill.

Buzzsaw flowers - Here is to discussed the transition between left and right side, that there is the middle part for one reel not in Buzzsaw. In the upper part its the same problem.

Thats all not done in buzzsaw wallplane.

It is, Richee. When I say "BTL buzzsaw" Im not talking about a windmill thing here... Im talking about actually doing a buzzsaw BTL ie left hand in front, right hand in back, between the legs doing buzzsaw in wall plane. Btb waist wrap buzzsaw = doing a buzzsaw under your arms with one wrapped BTB in wall plane (sorta like the one Bluecat does in Spinach sessions except turned to wall plane instead of just BTB). Im tellin you. There are plenty of buzzsaw moves that utilize wall plane.

i have tried for about 3 and a half years to learn the freakin buzzsaw.
can someone either come down hear and teach me or should i continue doin it with staves?

pps i second you, richee, the description sounds like a buzzsaw fountain.

here is the lovely HoPper carmenbelle performing a buzzsaw fountain. i'm too lazy to make a vid...

Bender, the move Im describing basically IS a buzzsaw fountain... However, its done without changing the direction of spin in relation to your body... Youre not going forward > reverse > forward... Youre doing one direction the whole time but following it with your body in a circle so that there is no direction change.

"IcON
Btb waist wrap buzzsaw = doing a buzzsaw under your arms with one wrapped BTB in wall plane (sorta like the one Bluecat does in Spinach sessions except turned to wall plane instead of just BTB)"


Wrapped,where, you meen with short Poi right.

*"Yes, there is no directinal change in buzzsaw, but planar."*
Answer is between left and right,
forward and backward Weave buzzsaw,
Wall plane,
When you stay wheel plane, your Buzzsaw is in the middle in one plane. When yo ustay wall plane, you can only choose outside or inside.


Revi,

"Its a polite way of saying facing each other, next to each other.. by thinking of them as /planes/, it kinda gives this static connotation doesnt it.."

Its dynamic connotation as you ack after.
That are static and dynamic planes point of view.

Myself I take it absolutely static. This is set of planes
referre space
and I move whole the set by turnig.
Thins point of view let me like you to go the same way,
its dynamized static.

:R

I know (and enjoy) the move you are doing Icon - its not a buzzsaw fountain the way that Bluecat et al do em

Right. Finally, someone who understands