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leeds 2: church of staff

My previous posts have been somewhat concise in terms of new moves. So I thought I would change all that up and provide descriptions this time.

Learned:

The doubles bfly btb halo thing.

Markus does this in Uber Unwrapped (lab 04). Both staffs going down btb toward your legs in sametime bfly. One goes under the other arm to do a btb entrance to a halo roll, the other is passed low BTB to the other hand. Then you catch the halo'd staff btb. Look swanky because for a moment that staffs are in line vertically and probably for other reasons, but that's the one I like.
I had previously tried this in parallel with the passed staff going behind the head, but that was staff + head + other staff bashy.

Lots of fishtail stuff better.
The three beat isolated fishtail: dual fishtails in front of you, flip one only and you'll have to invert the other fishtail and go into three beat fishtails. Fun fun fun. Perhaps without the flip and being very good, you could do four beats.
also: parallel turns. (pretty easy) and sametime bfly fishies into atomic. (not sure if it works yet.)

Jed's double thing almost.
Bit of history first: T&B did lots of this stuff at like falmouth 4 - 5. His was to steve with the other staff in the ending hand, grab it with both hands and when the steve finished, turn the short end into it's path, turn the staff in your hands and the steve would continue across it, (possibly throw it at this point) and then let it rotate alround the other end of the held staff before rolling back into the start of another steve. (He also had other variations.)
Bluecat came back from the godforsaken neatherlands at some point (kiwi land or aussie land) and said lots of aussies / kiwis were into this sort of contact, as well as have the second staff inside the space create by holding the first staff with both hands. (You can have some good vertical contact fun in this mode, or utilise inside horizontally if your staffs are short enough and your arms long enough by moving the staff in and out of the negative space created.)
Then meast did a lot of that stuff also, with some funky stops using the horizontal plane and the short end of the held staff, as well as doing horizontal pivots with it.
But onto jed's fucky assed variation which somehow utilised the vertical pivot into a neck wrap back into a trap. It was plenty sweet. Got it a little in leeds, but not enough to explain properly.

meast matrix with staff in hands.
Many stupid things with the second staff doing mostly nothing and held in both hands. So you can do the 'meast' or hula matrix with the staff held in your hands above your head. Or you can do a prayer matrix with the staff held just under your head and have the matrixing staff contact over it. and so on.

single:

matrix variations:

Substitution matrix without the turn.
This is the name I like. Some people call it the anti-spin matrix, I'm going to call the real anti-spin matrix the anti-spin matrix.
Basically instead of doing a neck wrap / throat wrap as you move the staff between the horizontal propellors of the matrix, you substitute a horizontal halo roll / chest halo for them. This is almost doable when turning (spin wise) and a good bit harder without the turning. Without the turning looks weird though, so it's for the win.

anti-turn matrix footwork.
t&bs carefully prepared backside step is what allows him to anti-turn the matrix in just one matrix. It takes me two. So I think I will learn the step.

the anti-spin matrix.
Clearly possible. Should be as difficult as the matrix used to be, so clearly worth it.

shoulders matrix.
A silly matrix combo. Do one side of the matrix, it will wrap the neck in some fashion, instead of going into the other side of the matrix, go into the other side of the neck wrap (full neck wrap style) then back into the same side matrix. So the staff effectively orbits your shoulder then you head then back to the same shoulder.

full neck wrap matrix.
Like the above, Sandy's original move. Where you put a full neck wrap into the middle of the matrix.

take out matrix.
not quite sure where it's going yet, but fun none-the-less. Sandies idea to take the staff out of the matrix using the back of the hand just as it's rotated around the armpit and is coming back on to the shoulder. Not quite sure how the btb takeout occurs yet...

shoulder slide matrix.
A [censored] offspring variant matrix. The staff misses a shoulder at the end of each half of the matrix. To be symmetrical it's the other shoulder for each half. The opposite of this where you miss a shoulder before going into the matrix is for a me a fair bit harder.

caged style matrix.
matrix into the low caged part of a caged steve and once it's round to the other shoulder, go back into the matrix. (breaking the cage.)

full steve matrix.
Some of the transitions are a little tricky but mostly it's what's said on the tin.

back the other way matrix, both sides + connections.
What I want now: wrong way half matrix, stop on the shoulder, back the 'normal' way full matrix, stop on shoulder, wrong way back around the other shoulder. Hmmmmmm. Well that and doing the origami matrix and stopping it between the elbows while leaning over and doing the above with that stop, instead of the shoulder stop.

matrix to chest spin.
One half of the matrix to a chest spin. If you were bendy you could probably do the other half also to a chest spin. (kinda like the substituion matrix.)

3221 matrix.
3 beat (normal) matrix, then two beats (one side andre) then another 2 beat matrix, the other side andre'd then a one beat matrix. (both sides andre.) (I think this is what chronos meant.)

limbo matrix steve. (or something)
You come out of a matrix under your armpit and lean hella back to the staff does a steve entirely on the underside of your arm, then does something and comes back down to the underside of your arm and back into the matrix. Theoretical only still.

multiple chest spins. shimmy.
Like meast, but using a shoulder shimmy to add momentum to the staff and keep it going indefinately.

arms down jesus.
Thanks mincy.

caged jesus.
Like a caged lucero but a jesus, cos the arms don't get in the way hardly at all on the frontside, they mostly get in the way when doing the halo on the back.

cont minimal beat steve with arms as a track.
I've wanted to be able to do this since chronos said about the minimal beat steve, but t&b busted it out in leeds. [censored]. When I say track, I mean one hand on top of the other, like you were going to go to sleep on your hands. (you can also do a normal steve like this.)

At this point, I have to go home from work. (what work?!) and er... go practise. Result!

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