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Larry
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Re: "I just learned a new move" thread Find similar topicfind similar   new
     11/04/06 08:52 AM

practising staff in the dark, on concrete because i thought "it would be a greater incentive not to drop my staff on the floor" was NOT the best idea i've ever had!


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mrsoap
newbie

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Loc: Brisbane, QLD
  new 11/04/06 02:12 PM

http://www.homeofpoi.com/lessons/staff_lessons.php?lesson=26

That's a tiny bit like what my move is like (at least the beginning part). The twirler sits down but doesn't actually roll over.

I like the name lawnmower. I think I'm going to call it that

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ado-p
Ninjaneer

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Loc: Galway/Ireland
  new 11/04/06 08:28 PM

Startet spinning in my left hand yesterday. learned all the fishtail variations that i know on my right. might even have a go at doubles in a few days. I did get the start of a doubles fishtail isolation. same as a normal on but your doingin fishtails. And turning.

Tried all the contact i know in the opposite direction... i've never done this before... and i was pleasantly surprised that it wasnt bad or as hard as i imagined. in fact some things are just easier that way. Steves for example. I've always started them on my bad hand... i can do them in the other direction too but getting extra spins isnt as intuitive at all. My forwards fig 8 is great on my right hand. my reverse is better on my left. My reverse fishtail is better on my right hand!! and my forwards is much better on my left. Also. I finally got the trick of 'real' forwards fishtails on both hands.. its all about the drop baby.

I also spent a good bit of time making my fishtails 'nice'. Coz i realised they were wonky.

Got a jesus with my hands down by my sides. An athiest?

I learned the matrix. Finally. Started on angel rolls too.

And finally i have some wicked stuff that i could spend all day explaining and it still would not make sense. None spinny staff. Mutant thumbs and stuff that you can do with your upper arms. So i'll make a video. Really i will... Anyone got a wee bit of space?

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 11/04/06 08:54 PM

course I have ado! anytime!

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-sandy-
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  new 12/04/06 04:33 AM

yay ado do a vid! id love to see you spin

Just been for a very satisfying spin. Lucero's getting much smoother and im now working on doing them with my arms by my sides. You have to turn much slower than i thought. Been playing with entries and exit for them too, you can go in from virtually anything but im particularly liking the v. steve entry and exit.

Also worked on the fishtailing down arm angel roll. Only one fishtail per arm so far but i think more can be added.

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ado-p
Ninjaneer

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  new 12/04/06 04:41 AM

right. i'll record it tonight. our camera makes mp4. already compressed. failry good quality.

i dont have a pc i can edit on so it'l be rough as a bears a*rse.

mcp. do i need som ftp info off you or something?

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 12/04/06 09:32 AM

you can yousendit to me or I can make an ftp account for you... whichever really...

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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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-sandy-
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  new 18/04/06 01:16 AM

New move, matrix take offs.

I got the idea from chronos steve take off idea (rolling down the first quarter steve then taking the staff off at the shoulder straight into 3rd quarter of full steve).

Basically you start doing a matrix (from neck going under right shoulder) and instead of getting the staff onto your chest you put your left hand (palm down) into the path of the staff and do a quarter steve. These can be done continusly.

Also today i got 5 in a row continuous fishtail angel roll fishtail turn. Trying to get it so there is only one beat of fishtail between angel rolls.

Oi Ado! wheres this vid then?

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 18/04/06 02:34 AM

I made a vid this weekend.

Then I burnt it onto a cd using windows media player.

Then I watched the music for a while on my other computer.

Then I got REALLY pissed off.



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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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-sandy-
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  new 18/04/06 03:02 AM

i thought you had premier? media player is pants (so's premier in my oppinion but ive got a mac )
horray for a new meg vid

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ado-p
Ninjaneer

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  new 18/04/06 09:49 PM

Ha ha.

I've made a vid alright. Its one full burn. 70mb. Bit dark, Not very technical.

!'ve got a copy of premier somewhere. So now i have to figure it out. Coz i havent a clue

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 18/04/06 09:58 PM

eh, windows media player isn't a video editor... and abode premier can't burn cd's... That was the main problem, the computer wouldn't recognise the cd as burnable and I couldn't burn it using something sensible... maybe tonight thou...

I'm gonna try Lives for linux, I've never got it working before, but this new distribution might be the first to get it to work... either that or it's back to gentoo...

Want an ftp account ado-p? I can also give ya a: ado-p.tepookatoys.com domain...

got an arm roll (steve style) to half andre matrix. It much nicer than the rob version, and very see-sawy

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"the now legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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-sandy-
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  new 18/04/06 10:34 PM

sorry meant windows movie maker.

you dont burn with premier you export your film using a codec (divx or whatever probably in the file menu) then use something like nero to burn the file

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 18/04/06 10:58 PM

yeah, I know. I did do computer science for a degree yeah? You don't teach your grandma how to suck eggs... Nero would have worked if the drive / windows had found the cd at all... I didn't do a degree on how to stop windows sucking ass.

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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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-sandy-
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  new 18/04/06 11:42 PM

fair enough sorry

i did once try teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, she was really good at it, the lack of teeth helped i think.

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mcp
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  new 18/04/06 11:45 PM

Yeah, I think that's a big part of it, I'm not sure on the motivation for wanting to suck eggs in the first place thou.. So I've never tried it.

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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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Mynci
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  new 19/04/06 09:34 AM

i learnt loads

the limbo - cheers mags
new continuous conveyor, cheers strugz.

1 complete anti-turn matrix (my back is F***ed)

and prayer rolls with an extra beat around the steepled hands.

and had great fun teaching strugz the anti-christ.. (strugz... remember ...you have to turn LEFT )

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Suibom
I looked in a mirror and noticed I was infinitely twisted.

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Reged: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
  new 19/04/06 09:41 AM

I just made me a practice staff (wood dowel, nylon rope heads)..
My wrists are gonna be soooooore from this thing..
Learning basic spins, basic throws.. fun stuffs

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Ahnold discussing poi - "It is naht a toober!"


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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 19/04/06 10:10 AM

Yet Another Video: (Y.A.V.)

http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/snuft3.0.wmv

adobe: your bits the second half.

Sorry I didn't name the moves, two hours of watching myself spin was too much for me.

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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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Dentrassi
slightly perpelexed & ambigious

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Loc: Brisbane, Australia, Earth
  new 19/04/06 12:51 PM

yum yum doubles contact - continuous loops of elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow while hand spinning/swapping other staff simultaneously.
ive finally got of my arse to make some new practice and fire contact doubles (old ones too bent) so might actually work stuff out again. alas ive been seduced by the dark side of poi butterfloops for a couple of months so am a bit rusty on the old contact doubles.
*sigh* even my single staff matrix variants i used to work so hard on have gone to sh*ite.

havent checked out the videos for a while, and was thinking i might update that Contact Links thread i wrote a while back.

which contact videos over the past year or so do you guys reckon should be linked?

E

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Edited by Dentrassi (19/04/06 12:53 PM)


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-sandy-
Wants your body

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  new 20/04/06 12:09 AM

well IMO

vodka and orange
http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/VO1.0.avi

beer, wine and cider
http://inspinerate.com/video/beerwinecider.mov

Tea and Crumpet
http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/TEA_AND_CRUMPET.MOV

Winter of spin
http://inspinerate.com/video/winterofspin05.mov

Meastic 2
http://cyberdada.free.fr/video/meastick2.wmv

and possibly a pinch of napalm
http://inspinerate.com/video/a_pinch_of_napalm.mov
although there is some poi in there as well

and while im doing a blatant self plug for inspinerate there is also contact tutorials
http://inspinerate.com/tutorials.php

and obviously megs tutorials too
http://www.firestaff-tutorials.co.uk

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Suibom
I looked in a mirror and noticed I was infinitely twisted.

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Reged: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
  new 21/04/06 02:51 PM

Haha! I think I found my staff flow today.. had a good 'ol short session with a great feeling loose spin. Now all I gotta do is start with the contact stuff (have half the conveyor)..

Much fun, much fun .

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Ahnold discussing poi - "It is naht a toober!"


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Dentrassi
slightly perpelexed & ambigious

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  new 21/04/06 04:28 PM

thanx Sandy thats much better than going through the tedious process of downloading and watching everything myself


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Chronofracture333
Hobo Gaylord

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  new 22/04/06 01:33 AM

A standard matrix has three beats. An Andre matrix has two and a half, it loses half a beat by missing out the neck wrap and just doing a back roll.

More variations....

I've been doing a two and a half beat matrix, missing out the throat wrap and replacing it with a chest roll.

Two beat matrix. Missing out both the neck and throat wraps, and replacing with chest and back rolls.

One beat matrix. A "flat" chest transfer, and a "flat" back transfer. Picture a cross section through the torso at armpit level. You'd have a funny oval shape. In a one beat matrix a horizontal propeller is being performed with this cross section.

One and a half beat matrix. A "flat" chest/back transfer with a back/chest roll.

Two beat matrix. A "flat" chest/back transfer with a neck/throat wrap.

Also getting more consistent with matrix propellers, and interrupting the matrix with limbo's and neck spins. So hopefully lots more variations to find.

Any thoughts on how to name matrix variants? The number of beats isn't specific enough, as it can refer to entirely separate moves.

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mcp
The Flying Water Muppet

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  new 22/04/06 02:35 AM

you must be bendy.

I think we should name them on bendiness scales.

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