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Analemma
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     07/10/04 11:48 PM

Really tricky, and I dont recommend them unless one is confident with isolations, otherwise they look quite ugly.

The essence of hybrid moves is to play an isolation with one, and an extension with the other hand.

In an isolation your hand is spinning Opposite to the Poi-head - and in an extension your hand is spinning With the Poi-head -> So with hybrid moves: If you spin your hands sametime the Poi swing splittime and the other way round.

Try this: Wheel-plane. Shorten only one Poi and play an extension (bigger circle) - play an isolation with the other hand. Hands sametime

Once one gets the feeling all moves are possible this way. I recommend starting with 3beat weaves.

andy


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Durbs
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  new 08/10/04 01:53 AM

Oooooh. me like

Am currently at work - but can see it in my head and get what you're talking about - just got to wait 4 hours and I can try it...

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spiralx
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  new 08/10/04 02:13 AM

Are we talking about both poi having the same centre of rotation - but one is an isolation, the other an arm circle of some kind? So the poi are lined up? If so, the isolation is I suppose optional but does make it easier.

Oh wait, you're not talking about that at all

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coleman
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  new 08/10/04 02:21 AM

andy, you rock

this sounds really sweet!

guess i need to work more on that isolated 3bt weave again for this to look good - i still don't have it clean :rolleyes:

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duballstar
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  new 08/10/04 02:48 AM

what a nice idea! gonna have to have a play with that... thanks

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oli
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  new 08/10/04 05:48 AM

wish i could spin same time. i like the sound of this.

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[Nx?]
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  new 08/10/04 06:19 AM

always gotta take time to read your posts man, thats sweet, tho logical...

how about parellel 1 arm extensions (wall plane) with the bottom poi point isolated???? that would be overly badass.

T

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  new 19/10/04 02:19 AM

i got that

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UsedCarOnlyFord
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  new 19/10/04 08:25 AM

So did I.

I blame the weed.



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Nate
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  new 13/01/05 12:37 PM

i have tried very hard recently to get this move but its [censored] hard, is there any help or advice that anyone could give me

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Olive
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  new 13/01/05 01:19 PM

the only trial I had with hybrids .. as u call them,
is
left-hand spins a giant wall-planed reel (front)
right-hand does an isolated reel behind the head
... so that you get a circle within a circle

gotta try your weave same-time / split-time stuff ... sounds good


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Ronopotamus
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  new 03/09/05 08:51 AM

*Bump*

After seeing these again at the EJC I do believe an almighty bumping is necessary.

Last night I finally started to feel the smoothness ....kind of

Beautiful beautiful brainfecking material

Nice one andy!

Ronan

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pricklyleaf
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  new 03/09/05 09:51 AM

has anyone got any video footage of this? (not like i'll be able to do them anytime soon tho!)

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TheWibbler
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  new 03/09/05 11:34 PM

This stuff is amazing, very crazy to watch, exceptionally mind bending to achieve, anyone looking for something fresh to play with, THIS IS IT!

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Ronopotamus
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  new 04/09/05 08:01 AM

There's nothing quite like a brain cramp to start of your day!

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thelost
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  new 04/09/05 08:03 AM

Written by: pricklyleaf

has anyone got any video footage of this?




I second that

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JonnyRok
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  new 04/09/05 08:59 AM

sounds brilliant, Im definately gonna give this a try.

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Mr_widd
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  new 26/04/06 03:10 AM

sorry to bump this again but i think i saw it done at falmouth by simon (i think thats who) and i fell in love with it, although i cant do it myself yet. Is this the hybrid move thats being spoken about being antispun?

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garthy
Hybridised

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  new 26/04/06 03:16 AM

Indeed it was (simon == simian) although simian does them without shortening one poi and the instructions state in the first post.

The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.

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Mr_widd
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  new 26/04/06 03:21 AM

arrwh, cool, wanted to make sure this was the trick. gonna go try it all night now.
thank you mr garthy. was coolio meeting you at falmouth if you remember also (i went with nate). this move makes me giggle cos it looks like a staff being spun.


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Look_This_Changes
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  new 26/04/06 03:26 AM

Maybe this will help you guys out:

Three beat weave. With the hand that's going over the top of the other hand to the other side, do a giant or long arm circle. Keep this up on both sides until you have a weave with a long arm beat going over the top every time.

Now, with the non-leading hand, follow the motions of the leading hand.

Ta da!! Hybrid weave.

Hope this helps.

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Mr_widd
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  new 26/04/06 03:55 AM

OMG! this helps sooo much! thank you, i sort of got it on my right hand side, it needs work but i can feel it working. I was to busy trying to iscolate one and follow it round with my other hand, putting too much effort into it i think. This is sooo much easer. thank you!

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mcp
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  new 26/04/06 04:00 AM

 Written by: garthy


The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.



nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?

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garthy
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  new 06/05/06 03:09 AM

some sorta two person hybrid type move would be interesting.

One person Isolating a weave / buzzsaw and one framing them with long arm?

Hmmm....

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DeepSoulSheep
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  new 06/05/06 03:41 AM

These move are hard enough to do with one person, but yes, it would be interesting to see and throw peanuts at.

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