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#404202 - 27/09/04 08:26 PM SuperHappyFun Contact Staff Links ****
Dentrassi Online   content
ZORT!

Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane, Australia, Earth
The SuperHappyFun Definitive Contact Thread

edit: finished for the night - after an epic battle involving UBB code and a toaster. if you have any other links ive missed let me know.

Ive basically listed here every single contact thread I could find on HoP, with a quick summary of what is in each one. Ive divided it up into 3 sections
1. Newbies
2. More Advanced Stuff
3. Combination Ideas

A couple of threads are listed in a few places because they discuss a range of moves.

Part 1 - For newbies:
The key difference in contact staff compared to conventional spinning is that you move your body around the staff as much as it moves around you.
*yoda voice* You must be at one with the staff

Its hard to explain, until you’ve seen some videos. For videos of individual movements:
- MCP's website has a range of videos with supporting explanations and tips.

For videos with nice smooth combinations:
- www.poiinthepark.net
- www.soton-firespinning.co.uk
- knox’s stuff, in particular the videos knox2 . Where im living no-one else has even started contact, so ive been on my own - Knox’s video has been the best resource ive ever found.
- this video http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi is also rather helpful.
- the spinach sessions Part 2 has some lovely contact and general shenanigans
- a whole bunch of other stuff by bluecat, glass, and others which im too tired to make the effort to find right now.

here's some descriptions of the fundamental moves. being HoP threads, the conversation meanders somewhat....
incidently, ado-p is writing up stuff as he learns contact moves so beginners may find that useful.

i think the basic contact movements are the:
-elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
-shoulder-neck-shoulder
-halo roll [shoulder-backpivot-shoulder]
-the half steve [palmspin-arm-neck-arm-palmspin]
-fishtails [back of hand]

Elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
- Robs Contact Thread gives a description
- im sure i remember another one somewhere...

Shoulder-neck-shoulder & halo rolls
- Mcp’s shoulder-neck-shoulder variants thread
- shoulder-neck-shoulder-halo moves
- a very old description of the halo roll
- many moves can be done on both the back and front of the neck

The half steve
This move is a fraction of ‘the steve’- named after steve from mushypea juggling who is one of the pioneers of contact staff.
- palm spin to neck wrap transfers thread give a range of tips
- backspin to quarter steve exits gives some info on a variation of the move

Fishtails
- fishtails thread
- another fishtails thread

Part 2: More advanced stuff

neck spin to head spin transfers

forehead spins & aspirin

contact catches

crude staffing

Inverted Fishtails

foot stuff
- the mullen
- the lynx
- Silly contact knee roll
- Contact stalls and foot juggles
- Contact Leg Throw

Part 3: Combinations & Random Ideas
heres some threads which may give you a few more ideas.

Robs Contact Thread is a rather large thread from a colourful feline. This has enough funky singles and doubles contact moves and ideas to keep you going for a while

nice contact combos thread

random ideas thread

more contact ideas

look mum! no hands! - another older thread

another older random ideas thread

one more....

Variations of neck-spins

the double steve [also described in robs contact thread]

a thread on doubles separations and combinations that uses some contact

a few mentions of doubles crosses and contact

an old post relating contact & baton twirling

contact staff vs baton twirlers...

stuff about contact grip contstruction

Contact staff size & construction

a philiosophical discussion about what is a contact combo

a random post on the origins of contact

fishy neckrolls & bitching about baton twirlers

An old thread with dead links...




Edited by Dentrassi (30/09/04 02:35 AM)

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#404203 - 27/09/04 10:08 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Dentrassi]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
Silly Chavs

Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Whales
Do we get to talk about Badgers in here too?



like in the Hyperloops and tangles thread?

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#404204 - 27/09/04 10:09 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Dentrassi Online   content
ZORT!

Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane, Australia, Earth
certainly! kitten related crimes can also be discussed!
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#404205 - 27/09/04 10:15 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Dentrassi]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
Silly Chavs

Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Whales

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#404206 - 28/09/04 03:09 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Dentrassi Online   content
ZORT!

Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane, Australia, Earth
*shudder* legal stuff...

i never paid much attention to laws.

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#404207 - 28/09/04 05:43 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Dentrassi]
tenticle Offline
Cheesecake Impersonator

Registered: 13/08/02
Loc: ati: on: She: ffi: eld: UK:
Written by: Dentrassi


certainly! kitten related crimes can also be discussed!




I was mugged by a kitten once. Does that count? It was a f***ing big kitten, with a leather studded bow and very little fur, in case anyone thinks i'm a wuss. It approached me and asked 25p for a tin of tuna, and when I asked it how it could opperate a tin opener with those paws, it got a bit worked up and started pushing me around and demanding my wallet. I gave it to him, and he legged it into a park. It was caught when it tried to use my ID to buy beer, but got away when some of its mates rushed the police outside the shop. I last saw it on crimewatch, seems it had held up a fishmonger, got away with ten pounds of fish sticks.

--ben

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#404208 - 28/09/04 06:56 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: tenticle]
simian Offline
monkey

Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
does anybody mind if i go a bit

and avoid any mention of kittens, and instead just give some

to Dentrassi for his most excellent work on his links:

Good work sir!

and good luck also for the substantial amounts of future editry you will have to endure as and when any new contact thread gets created.
bwa ha ha haaaaaaa...

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#404209 - 28/09/04 11:01 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: simian]
Durbs Offline
Classically British

Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England
Could I add on a helpful note that there's no mention of the Rubber Heart Duo's video which is an excellent vid for learning throws with doubles...

Congrats and thanks Dentrassi.

Have a kittern
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#404210 - 28/09/04 11:04 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Durbs]
ado-p Offline
Ninjaneer

Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
psssttt durbs

its coz its a contact staff thread....

Dentrassi,

Nice work dude, very nice indeed.
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#404211 - 29/09/04 12:48 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: ado-p]
Durbs Offline
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Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England
Ahhhh - my bad
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#404212 - 29/09/04 01:18 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Durbs]
mcp Offline
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Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
wow, there's suddenly a lot more thread links... Nice one Dentrassi...

I like that the past is all nicely laid out and organised. Now we can get on with making up the future...

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#404213 - 29/09/04 01:26 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: mcp]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
Silly Chavs

Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Whales


:claphands:

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#404214 - 29/09/04 02:37 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
ben-ja-men Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
i think u definately need to add
http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi
to the videos list.

the yahoo group got deleted by yahoo as nothing was posted there for ages.
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#404215 - 29/09/04 03:11 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: ben-ja-men]
Mayhem Offline
stick boy!

Registered: 21/03/02
Loc: Tampa, FL, USA
Yes, definitely needs to be added. Was one of the first staff vids i saw and it helped me out a lot. Especially with new ideas and what you can really do with a staff. Plus all the other nifty stuff on it! Glass rocks! So do you Ben! Big hug to all my staff brethren and sistren!

Mayhem

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#404216 - 29/09/04 02:11 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Mayhem]
Pyrolific Moderator Offline
not carpel tunnel.

Registered: 10/01/01
Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
well done Dentrassi!

Josh
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#404217 - 29/09/04 11:14 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Pyrolific]
strugz Offline
is on his way back..

Registered: 06/03/02
Loc: Southampton - Possibly...
ooo so much to read

Thanx for taking the time to do all this, nice and eezy to follow too!

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#404218 - 30/09/04 02:43 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: strugz]
Dentrassi Online   content
ZORT!

Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane, Australia, Earth
thanx all! happy reading.

have slipped in the link to the glass vid.

right. im going out into to the late night rain to work out more silly doubles combos.

incidently, if anyone see's mech around - go up and hump his leg for me. i finally finished wicking the contact staff he made when he was staying here - and its an absolutely dream to play with [the staff, not mech ].
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#404219 - 21/10/04 07:53 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: Dentrassi]
King Of Bongo Offline
Back online :)

Registered: 25/12/02
Loc: Madrid
wicked thread dentrassi!
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#404220 - 10/02/05 11:59 AM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: King Of Bongo]
ado-p Offline
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Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
*bump*
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#404221 - 10/02/05 09:22 PM Re: Contact Staff Links *UNDER CONSTRUCTION* [Re: ado-p]
mech Offline
maker of pointless avtars

Registered: 09/06/03
Loc: "In your ear"
nice on on the thread ed

i can just see you now sitting at your dads machine like the good old days in your shorts and huge socks, working the night away while i sleep like a log in the next room

this is a really col thread man

cheers

ps hows you and your lady?
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