#328808 - 10/05/04 10:35 PM
league against circles
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Registered: 30/07/03
Loc: London, UK
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I've been spinning a bit recently with a (non-spinning) critical audience. It's really helped develop my style into something a lot more than just two bits of fire going round in circles, as I can get an idea pretty quickly what works and what is just hard but doesn't look any good. It's also helping me with my general body movement around the poi.
Anyway, one of the things I've noticed is that many of the things I do that are good are non circular moves or moves that break the circles. Once people have seen you do a weave and a few turns and stuff, they get bored of watching things go round in varying circles.
I've learnt of a few non-circular things to do, does anyone have anything else fun that they do that isn't circles?
Things I do at the moment -
Stalls - these are kind of okay, but always look a bit boring to me.
Wraps - I like to use these to make s shapes and things like that. It looks dangerous which is a bonus.
Kicks - These are okay, but I've not really got anything interesting going with them. I can swap from butterfly to normal weave. I thought spin backwards, jump and kick both poi to forward might look nice, but it currently seems a bit stilted unless I can do it much more smoothly and reliably.
horizontal + vertical lines (you can do them split time or together). I'd like to get one horizontal + one vertical looking like a cross, but this seems to be really quite hard to do. These are ace as an attention grabber, because they make a really massive noise if you do them fast and look quite insane. Be sure your poi are tightly attached before doing vertical ones cos they can jerk hard if you don't do them right. They look way way better than pendulums which always seemed a bit of a yawn move to me.
Joe
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#328809 - 10/05/04 10:55 PM
Re: league against circles
[Re: Joe Marshall]
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big and good
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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stalls taken to the extreme are fun.
we call them 'gilligans', you can call them whatever you like.
this is my pendulum thread from a while back.
it went a bit weird...
if they make you yawn, poke bluecat until he writes a description of that pendulum weave thing he does...
this is a nice idea too.
catches and throws (head or whole poi) break up the circle thing massively.
and for more random non-circleness, try thinking of as many ways to make squares and spirals as you can.
then tell us all about them
have fun
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#328811 - 11/05/04 12:10 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: Glåss]
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NYC
Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
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I have, and will always be, a member of the Pro-Circle Majority.
Breaking circles isn't natural. I'm pretty sure there's a passage in the bible about it... towards the back I think.
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#328812 - 11/05/04 01:06 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: NYC]
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big and good
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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near the back?  new testament, schmoo testament i say. follow the crowd if you like. spin those circles, then jump through them. anyway nyc, i could have sworn that not 6 months ago you were a pro-beatist and hence of a non-circlular faith?
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#328813 - 11/05/04 03:59 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: NYC]
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geek, level 1
Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
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NYC you shameless liar. if ever i saw a wrap fanatic it was you. unfortunately i won't be able to force you to do non circles as my entire summer now seems destined to be away from edinburgh....(going to juggle with jayG, manuL and remi...  ) ps not going to explain the pendulum weave until i can spin again(ETS june 7th  ) love R
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#328815 - 11/05/04 04:17 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: coleman]
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Registered: 02/04/04
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Bluecat get in a time machine and go to june now and tell us pendulm weaves!
also whenever I try non circular stuff I feel like im ripping off glass, because I have a hard time comeing up with anything that's not exactly like what he does in videos.
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#328817 - 11/05/04 06:09 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: robotface]
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geek, level 1
Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
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glass? in a vid? where? must findmustfindmustfind  sorry cole i don't actually know it well enough(got several variations...) to explain without going and doing for a while..... huggery R
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#328818 - 11/05/04 06:14 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: bluecat]
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Registered: 02/04/04
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Spinning in paris 1-4. I can send you said vids on MSN, ICQ or AIM, I downloaded them from a friend via DC++
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#328819 - 11/05/04 08:16 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: robotface]
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NYC
Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
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Pro beat = Pro circle.
And wraps are still circles, you're just changing the radius. Kinda like they're just circles moving away from you very quickly. That is to say, if you just ran towards my fist while I was wrapping, it would look just like a circle. And then you'd hit my fist which would be extra funny.
I'm not anti non-circles. I'm just anti- anticircles. It's not one or the other. I support both. And reject rejections of either.
[What?]
I can't support a 'league AGAINST circles' but I can support a 'league for things other than circles.'
[Oh]
Spread the love, not the hate.
NYC,
Pro-beat, pro-circle, pro-premodernist, pro-postmodernist, pro-illegal, pro-oldskool, pro-newskool, pro-fire, pro-glow, pro-hippy, pro-raver, pro-american style, pro-UK style, pro-sock poi, fire poi,tennis ball poi... if it's a ball on a string, and you're having fun... I suppport it.
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#328820 - 11/05/04 08:27 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: NYC]
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Registered: 08/11/01
Loc: Bristol
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crickey I'd completely forgotten about that,
runs off to watch the Spinning in Paris Directors Cut
(DC: theres not differenct footage I just re-edited Jo's bit slicker,
I'll get it on the website st the end of the month)
what a great weekend that was
search in videos, it should still be online... I think, maybe,
I'd ask wifey, but wifey isn''t here at the moment
I know this function doesn't work:
[pollstart]
[polltitleWhen swinging, which is better:]
[polloption=Lindy Circle]
[polloption=or Swing out?]
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#328821 - 11/05/04 09:14 AM
Re: league against circles
[Re: Glåss]
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raised by sighthounds
Registered: 21/03/02
Loc: austin,tx
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NYC has more support than a high school basketball team.
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#328822 - 11/05/04 08:17 PM
Re: llindy circle or swing out?
[Re: arashi]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/05/04
Loc: Away from home
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Glass, swing outs are obviously better but real men let go on five
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#328823 - 11/05/04 08:42 PM
Re: llindy circle or swing out?
[Re: Dr_Molly]
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Classically British
Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Guildford, Surrey, England
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Glass: Wifey? Who? Eh?
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#328825 - 12/05/04 12:34 AM
Re: llindy circle or swing out?
[Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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geek, level 1
Registered: 15/12/02
Loc: everywhere
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aaaah yes indeed i know those vids rather well... dom? or maybe some other juggler...?  hugs R
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#328826 - 12/05/04 02:47 AM
square-so-lations
[Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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member
Registered: 30/07/03
Loc: London, UK
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I've played enough now to determine that square-so-lations are really really difficult.
Can anyone actually do these without making them go all circly at the corners or stopping and falling down?
Is there a trick to them? I reckon that you need to move your hand in a sort of curly cross shape to make squares, but it's hard to see how you'd make the poi keep going round.
Joe
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#328827 - 12/05/04 03:45 AM
Re: square-so-lations
[Re: Joe Marshall]
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NYC
Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
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Awww shucks... back in the day I had me a girly who's swingouts could make your jaw drop and your eyeballs pop out. Alas. Then again, back in the day I had me a girly who's buzzsaws could take your breath away. Alas. I guess that means I'm either a really bad swingdancer, firespinner, or boyfriend.  Maybe all of the above. Relating other conversations. I certanly do believe the further away from circles we go, the further away from 'Poi'. But that's just me.
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