Isolated buzzsaw (and what people call things)

"if glass does the inverted buzzsaw thing please kick his a$$ for me"

NYC wrote this a little while back and after searching the site i still can't find any mention of what it actually is...

from what i did find, the buzzsaw is another name for burn the nose (names, names, names and more names). if this is so, what does it mean to 'invert' it?

and while i'm pestering you all for info, is there a popular name for doing btn on the horizontal plane (so you can spin around with it)?

[ 27 October 2002, 17:59: Message edited by: colemaniacal ]

I think NYC meant a buzzsaw isolation, where the centre of rotation moves down the string towards the poi. Don't ask how to do this, we can't tell you. There might be a video soon.

Isolations with poi.
I can *almost* do them, and them sometimes I think that they're impossible again.

they're insane, they're one of the "taking the weight off" moves. Imagine doing a buzzsaw, but instead of your hands being in the middle and the poi at the outside of the circle, you have your hands and the outside of the circle, so that your left hand is moving next to the right poi and right hand next to left poi.
everything is spinning around the midddle of the poi string.
Get it.
I don't know if I do.
they are utterly jedi.

Don't have tails

And for your next question...
"If glass does one of those Hyperloop things, kick his butt for me."

be cool
Glass
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be

[ 16 October 2002, 07:29: Message edited by: glass ]

I can do a few of those, but I can only do one beat before having to come out again. Must learn to sustain it.

I learned by concentraring on one hand at a time, and trying to spin the poi while moving my hand in a circle directly across from the poi. After you get it down, as glass said, the both your poi and your hand are spinning around the center of the string.

Anyways, it wourked for me, so give it a shot if you like!

I can't do it, but I can photoshop it so I can look like I can.

I also can SAY I can do it on the internet because, who's going to check me? It's easy, just kinda move your arms like this?

cheers for the info glass. thanks 2 dom too for actually showing me one of these 'isolation' thingys last night.

like paddy, i sort of learnt to do one (only on my left) just taken out of a normal weave.

it truly is zen.

as for doing it constantly in a buzzsaw? i'll leave that to the hyperlooping-sevenbeat-airwrapping guru's among you.

after spinning with Dom in Paris I can just about do one beat of 'isolation' in the weave on each side, and one or two in the buzzsaw. very messily.

I reckon now I understand the concept though I will be able to refine it

:shudders:

can you imagine the speed needed to sustain isolation???

im gonna say, almost seriously (because theres always gonna be someone who can), that its humanly impossible for more than one beat...

wiffle, slower than the speed of thought.
slower than poi can spin, then slower still

but no, they're impossible today, see its a waining moon, tides are all wrong. They're not going to happen

What can I say? There have been a lot of new and innovated moves posted recently, but I’m having trouble just visualising this one, let alone doing it.

Would the action be anything like peddling (push bike action) with your hands out front??? Dunno, crank like. The centre of the circle being the middle of the chain, b/t the hand and poi. Am I even close??? Sounds extremely difficult.

Yep, think what you're thinking is right. It's one of those concepts it takes a bit of time to realise, then a lot longer to actually do! Have to see if we've got any good examples on video.

Thank’s Dom

You guy’s sure come up with some interesting concepts. Will give it a go tonight after work.

Ohh... I think I get it. One of my friends was trying to show me how to do a weave like that, though he hadn't done it for a while and kinda forgot how.

'peddling' with your hands if your doing buzzsaw isolations sounds just the trick

good luck -

Dom gave me some but it hasn't worked. Maybe someone else will get it to function better.

the longest I have on video is only 37 beats.
I got some good ones on video, very dull footage, byut good iso
need to edit them up
Dom shall I mail them to you like last time?

seems that lunar cycles are right for them today
them be illusive little buggers

yep

Glass, and Dom, mail me the same, I'll try to get a copy of mine mailed to you as well. 9 beats of buzzsaw, switch to 12 beats of weave very sloppy on left side. Thanks. Candykid322@aol.com

PLUR
DOC

[ 24 October 2002, 15:28: Message edited by: DocLiquid ]

anyone still not grasping the concept... grab a single poi, then spin your hand around in a circle in the horizontal plane - like your stirring a big pot. The center of spin of the poi should move down the rope, towards the end.. and if you go real fast, should go all the way so the end of you poi is stationary, while your hand goes nuts around it.

now all you have to do is do it with both hands, offset, and in the vertical plane!

(if this description is misleading, someone let me know - as i've never actually seen this jedi move performed)

how incredubly original.
goes to show that twirling as an art form is always in a state of growth. kinda like fungus, but nicer smelling.
thanks for the new direction, dudes! keep up the good funguses!