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Intala
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     20/08/07 10:51 AM

Ok, is there a vid of it somewhere, because I don't get it.

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Fireina
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  new 20/08/07 01:02 PM

Narp...It's a colour guard toss, so you're not gonna find a vid of it here. *Goes fishing for video on guard web site* I can't embed it here cause it's stupid, but here's the URL.

http://www.legacybands.org/performance/WinterGuard/2004DeadorAlive.html

Hokay so...in the beginning when the flags come out and do all the background work while the rifles are doing all their stuff downstage, watch closely. This is in the first verse part. When the song says, "It's all the same, only the names will change/ every day it seems we're wasting away." On the word "away" the flags do a version of the toss that's back-handed and over-rotated.

Then if you sit for a bit and watch the sidelines for the people getting rifles, you will see the official, normal version of a prayer toss. They'll all move into a line running down the stage left chunk of the floor. As they start to go across the floor, you'll notice them raise their guns, bring them back down, and then when they bring them up again they'll release the toss in a prayer position. That is a prayer toss.

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Intala
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  new 23/08/07 08:19 PM

I don't get it, I'm sorry. I can't isolate the move you're talking about and I can't see what's happening properly as the vid focusses on the group performance as a whole. Awesome performance it is, but I'll go research it some more. Thanks for the trouble.

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simta
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  new 24/08/07 02:23 AM

no i couldnt see the prayer toss your on about, jus cos they toss it whilst holding on with both hands doesnt make it a toss from prayer postion

if you want to work out what it is, jus look for any videos of prayer moves, prob be easiest to understand it from a prayer fishtail

think if you were doing a normal fishtail how u can toss from that back into a fishtail, same method for prayer

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-sandy-
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  new 24/08/07 03:03 AM

ooh ooh new move, yay

Playing with Ninja Dave yesterday we came up with a new doubles contact move, inside butterfly conveyor belt (as in inside butterfly, not inside planes). After you've placed the staff doing the conveyor in, you need to get the other staff behind you pretty quick to get out. Also thought of a couple of (still theoretical) variations, after you've placed into the conveyor you sould be able to fishtail that staff while spinning 1 beats with the other in the other direction, yay 1 handed butterfly fishtails (almost).

The other one to make it a full conveyor involves throwing the staff in your hand to the other hand at the same time as you place the staff doing the conveyor from hand to hand. Because its in butterfly, the throw is really hard to get the timing right.

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Mynci
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  new 24/08/07 03:05 AM

sounds nice dude... can't wait to see that

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-sandy-
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  new 25/08/07 10:08 PM

Its been a good week for moves, probably cos of the sunshine

Extending turning halos into horizontal angel rolls and minimum steves (neck side) with 1 beat direction changes at the elbow.
You min steve to the elbow, 1 beat direction change back to H. angel and turn 1/3 circle (like a 360 halo) then 1 beat direction change back to min steve at the other elbow and turn. Repeat.

Managed 1 full revolution so far but they should be continuous.

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Mynci
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  new 25/08/07 10:51 PM



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Richee
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  new 27/08/07 06:30 AM

To start turn with cutback from palmspin, rather directly form the forearm.

lightning,

:R


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Poje
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  new 28/08/07 03:52 AM

I've been dabbling with some inside steave stuff. Let the staff walk down my wrist then forearm then upper arm then start over. also that same inside steve thing but after upper arm bring it over to a neck wrap where i can do back spin or back up the oppisite arm. let me know if that makes sence

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Flame Boy
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  new 21/09/07 06:32 AM

Mag's "Limbo" and can get going straight round the neck onto the back in one fluid rotation.
Im very happy with myself and it looks sick! :-D

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Poje
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  new 14/11/07 06:53 AM

So i just got back from a weekend in Oakland, CA. Hanging out with Greg, Noel, Elias, and the rest of the spinagogue crew.

I learned:

Reverse Fishtails
Full Steve
All sorts of rotors/cleaned up rotors
my continuous halos are much cleaner
conveyer to halo continuous with multiple variations
and a crap ton of variations.

Well worth it and highly reccomended. Those guys are teh cool.

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  new 14/11/07 11:50 PM

 Written by: Poje


Those guys are teh cool.



+1

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LazyAngel
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  new 03/01/08 12:34 PM

finally... right to left angel roll (needs tidying)
and some other halo-y stuff which involves turning lots

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Neon_Shaolin
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  new 04/01/08 06:02 AM

Mostly FeiCha stuff - like the forearm pop/roll to minimal beat steve to continuous angel rolls (most I've achieved is about 7 angel rolls in a row)

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Pogo69
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  new 08/01/08 12:10 PM

it's all been about the doubles recently... pick up the contact staff every now and then, but it's just not doing for me as much as making pretty patterns with the doubles...

mostly playing with flowers... forwards, backwards, one forward/one backward... front plane (thanks yuta - yes, I know he's poi, but some of the stuff he was teaching at 2uberoz has translated very nicely to doubles)... trying to become familiar enough with moving in any direction, that it all becomes 2nd-nature, so's I can concentrate more on the movement, than the spinning...

still have a lil play with antispin stuff, some, but it's not quite working out as well for me...

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Lau_Shadow_Boxer
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  new 14/01/08 05:13 PM

conveyor belt - through halo - conveyor belt *dances*

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Skatto
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  new 31/01/08 09:21 AM

I gave up and came back to it months and months later...

And now I can do fishtails!!!

Woohoooooooo

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Poje
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  new 31/01/08 09:45 AM

woot woot, isn't it cool how that works?

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Pogo69
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  new 31/01/08 11:26 AM

hmmm... ok, that's now my new pedagogic technique for learning fishtails, too... I give up...

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Neon_Shaolin
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  new 31/01/08 01:59 PM

I taught Mr Majestik fishtails yesterday. He got them in less than two minutes...

B*stard... Either that or I'm a good teacher!

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simta
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  new 31/01/08 02:33 PM

at waveform sandy was teaching someone fishtails and he pretty much had them in 20/30mins,damn annoying

i been liking frontside vertical steve to jesus

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Neon_Shaolin
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  new 31/01/08 02:35 PM

For me

Dual parallel Isolated fishtails (buzzsaw plane) complete with propellers on both hands

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simta
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  new 31/01/08 02:36 PM

looks like you been having too much time out in the sunny climes to practise :P

that move sounds really nice

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Neon_Shaolin
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  new 31/01/08 02:46 PM

It is! To see what it looks like, look for Sebastien's videos
It's pretty much a Sebastien signature move...

Yup... too much time! Plus i spent 3 days at a juggling convention. with at least 6 hours a day practicing. In terms of moves I've cracked how to get continuous angel rolls pretty much every time now and working with alot of minimal beat steves mixed with fei cha but now I'm kinda trying the whole 'no moves, just dance' style...

Without the assistance of the green... It's working!

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