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24/09/07 08:44 AM
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Yeah ive whapped myself in a very bad place a couple times. Im just trying to get used to heavy poi. Wait you should know more than me, If you start with heavy poi do lighter poi become easier, or is that an idea i came to in my head thats completely untrue?
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24/09/07 08:49 AM
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sometimes you can get that used to the heavier weight that when you use lighter poi they seem too flyaway and not as substantial
isolations especially can be a lot more difficult with lighter poi if you get used to heavy ones
heavier poi do give you a feeling of more control
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Is it better to start with light poi then? Basicly im asking if your able to master lighter poi will you be better at heavy, or vice versa?
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24/09/07 09:08 AM
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Nope, heavy are best to learn with. They spin slower and need less force/ effort/ energy to keep them going
And as they are spinning slower, they dont hurt as much when you hit yourself.
Light poi suck almost as much as NYC does.
There isnt a difference between heavy and light poi.. at the end of the day, its still a weight on a string.
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24/09/07 09:14 AM
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there is no one answer
try different weights, see what you enjoy spinning with
this might change overtime
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24/09/07 09:21 AM
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Nope, heavy are best to learn with. They spin slower and need less force/ effort/ energy to keep them going
There isnt a difference between heavy and light poi.. at the end of the day, its still a weight on a string.
Hrmm... two sentences that disagree with each other and I disagree with them both.
I think heavy poi are easier at first, but then it depends what you want to do with them. I think it's harder to shift from heavy to light than vice versa.
If you pick any moderate weight you'll be fine. If your main goal is to firespin, then you probably want to go with some weight at or below that. I know the poi I practice with are always lighter than firepoi soaked in fuel.
The real answer is: try different set ups, pick one that works for you. There may not be a 'right' answer but there may be 'right' setups for each individual.
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Ok so thank you for spending so much time to answer my questions. I have been practicing so hard and now have down a pretty sketchy 5 beat weave, BUT STILL its under ADVANCED WEAVES i couldn't be more excited although to you this is still a beginner move. So thank you for all your support and help!!!
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27/09/07 09:41 AM
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No clue how a 3bt butterfly or even thread the needle would work... even split time I can't see it being 3 beats.. maybe there's some kind of isolation or cross in there i'm not thinking about..
Hi Imbalance!
Feel free to ask if you don't understand what I'm trying to say, it's probably because my brain's a bit muddled and not because there's anything wrong with yours...
Right... so, if you do a normal 2 bt thread the needle, you do the beats in time with moving your hands, so, say your hands move forwards/backwards at the same time as you give your poi the impulse to go up/down (depending which way you prefer doing your ttn...).
For the 3 beat, you have to change that. As you said, there's some arm-crossing involved. I'm breaking it down like this for the forwards ttn (as seen here http://www.homeofpoi.com/lessons_all/teach/3_15_24_82 but 3bt):
Right hand, beat 1: right arm stretched and over left hand, left hand just pulling back Left hand, beat 1: as left hand comes out under right arm on the left side Right hand, beat 2: right arm still stretched, left hand just coming up over the right arm Left hand, beat 2: left arm stretched and over right hand, right hand just pulling back Right hand, beat 3: as right hand comes out under left arm on the right side Left hand, beat 3: left arm still stretched, right hand just coming up over the left arm.
PS: It really helps to count the beats loud at the beginning, took me ages to stop confusing myself and falling back into the normal ttn
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You know what I did and am very happy with it. I got 2 tennis balls from Petco that cost a $1.00 each and I quite like the weight and feel of them. I use them in my sock poi.
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27/09/07 11:24 PM
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Cool! I think they hurt a bit more than beanbags and might be a bit light for some but if they work for you than go for it!
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hey I am just getting into poi and fire spinning. I want to do my senior project on this and I was just wondering if you could tell me anything useful. Is it terribly difficult or could most anyone pick it up? Anyhting you could tell me or any pointers u could give a newbie would be much apperciated.
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28/09/07 03:21 AM
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Anyone can pick it up.
You're in the right place.
Everyone here started exactly where you are right now.
Have a look around at the library (above), grab a pair of sock poi, and give it a spin.
I'd start here and learn each move and keep hitting "next"
I actually think it's a great senior project. You can easily research the history and relevance to the maori people and make yourself look all cultural and historical and such. Maybe even download a maori video like to get crazy educational street cred.
Welcome!
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so i should def start out with sock poi? Im looking at all the options right now and its a little over whelming
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28/09/07 03:27 AM
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No, not definitely.
Don't be overwhelmed. Any choice you make is the right one.
And if you get hooked you'll play with all your poi.
I just think sock poi are the easiest to make and get started.
I edited my above post as well.
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28/09/07 03:30 AM
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Honestly, if you pick a pair of poi you think look pretty, you'll be in good shape. This way you'll have a pretty set even if you find a set that you find easier to use later.
Though you should probably have a pair of sock poi somewhere in your arsonal. But you should probably have a pair of non-sock poi in your arsonal as well so, again, you're not going to regret any poi you make or buy.
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haha, nice. picking something pretty is something I can do. Ill have to let you know which ones I go with.
Thanks for your help
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28/09/07 03:50 AM
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Sometimes the ones with tails can be tricky even though they are pretty because the tails tangle.
If you're gonna order online, pick a cute set of sock poi and you'll be set.
Unless you really want the fluffy ones which are ubercute but might tangle a bit more but are probably closer to the feel of fire poi but aren't as easy to learn advanced stuff with but...
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yep, i am wrong. I have no idea why i had it burned into my head that the move is a 4bt split time... Just went and spun a split time ttn and yep, 3 beats. I've actually been doing that move way longer than I have the same time 4bt variety. I've actually been trying to figure out how in the world I had that wrong for so long and I'm usually a stickler for counting the beats... only thing I can figure out is because I learned it by accident when first trying to learn the 4bt same time version WAAAAAAAAAAAY back... musta just called it 4bt because that's what I was striving for.
anyway.. i was wrong.
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28/09/07 11:23 AM
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Booo! This is the internet! Never admit when you're wrong! Throw out some personal attacks and irrelevant facts! Twist some words and throw some mud! Booo!
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