What IS thread the needle?

i'm looking at the video, and people keep telling me to learn it, but i don't see what it actually is, i don't understand what your supposed to do. (i'm probably actually doing it and don't know it, but i need help x.x)

It's kind of a butterfly but one hand starts the circle at the elbow of the other arm, and moves down as they swing around. It alternates every swing.

I guess it's kind of hard to describe, but personally I think it sucks a bit... I never ever use it and I don't think it's helped me with any other trick. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen anyone make it look good!

I'd really like someone to tell me when to use it so it looks good. Sorry if I'm being dumb.

Begin in a butterfly - let's say a forward butterfly. The concept is, as your poi begin their downward descent, to bring your right hand back to your left elbow, like pulling a bow and arrow. When the poi get down to the bottom of their swing, bring the right hand forward, crossing it over the left hand which will come back to the right elbow when the poi pass vertical, and so on.

Threading the needle, though hardly ever performed for its own sake, is an integral part of some other, more complex and fun, moves.

Hope this helps

Thread the needle...

begin the move by doing a search.

After that, it's basically doing a butterfly, whilst doing 'one potato two potato' with your hands.
As kittyn says, it is an important move to learn, as it is an integral part of other, more complex moves.

learn it, it makes doing butterflys fun...

i think everybody at some point asks the 'whats the point in the thread needle?' question, i know i did. stick with it, and dance with it.

TTN is just a butterfly where you change which hand is on top each beat. So learn to do a butterfly each way and it'll come to you.

And you 100% should learn it... it's equally as important as the weave in the long run

i found the best way to learn it thanks to durbs, gracias my durbs is to just do it without the poi and imagine your pulling down your sleeves so your sliding like your right hand down from your left elbow to left wrist etc and just keep alternating then try it with poi, you'll have it in 5 mins trust me

oh and if they tangle on the up beat your not bringing the hands far apart enough, remember one hand goes back while the other goes forward, not just one going forward, u dont get enough distance between the 2 that way

good luck

Just since we're on topic.....kinda... is there video around of anyone doing anything over a 4bt ttn?

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I never ever use it and I don't think it's helped me with any other trick

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thread to neadle is a great move to learn i never knew how to do it until 1 day i taught myself byt accident. itsa great move to learn the butterfly weave its sick cus then u could go from forward btf weave to reverse and back it looks preety cool:)

i can do a backwards weave, is that harder then ttn x.x?

There's a video of a 5bt TTN on Spherculism .

With turns!

It's like doing a weave with a butterfly, every time the other hand goes ontop of the other.
It's cute, but i think its stuiped :<

dont mistake it for butterfly weave.

and try doing it behind the back, thats cool

hmm, i don't know why i can't do this ttn, but i have developed the ability to do either a 3 beat or 4 beat reverse weave

i thought i couldn't do thread the needle before i read this post and had indeed forgot it even existed (am nowhere near the stage where it makes pretty patterns) but I tried it last night and it was suddenly about the easiest thing in the world, the sleeve pulling tip is an aboslute gem of wisdom, try that! cheers pyrowill and cheers durbs who first said it! I quite like it as a trick, it's quite relaxing in a way 'cause you don't have to think about it much...

I'm going to brush up my ttn, I think. If so many fine poisters thinkn it's good, who am I to disagree? I've not got onto butterfly weaves or anything yet so maybe that explains my confusion a little bit.

Yeah and if you are spinning to some tune with a good hard beat you can do TTN and gradually bend over backwards...dunno how it actually looks, but it feels nifty.

Yay

I just found out how to do ttn btb, so now I can move between the normal one and the btb one, if you do it with deep long moves and swap it between the sides of the body every two moves it looks very impressing.

be hesus, reading this stuff makes my head hurt

thread the needle was for some reason the easyest move for me to learn, so im not any good at teaching it cause i never had to work at it

it can look hot if you do it above you on the ground

by the way: what the hell is butterfly weave?! ive never heard of it

peace

OH MY GOD!!! i just realized your from cincinnati!!!!!! we have to meet up and spin! PM me please!

peace

butterfly weave is like.. do a butterfly on your right side lol like bust a btfl and then turn your body to the left styles:)
then you simply try to cross over the butterfly 2 your left side but while doing the handmochen of the weave lol jsut keep in mind that your doing a normal weave xept 1 string is going the oposite way
then u can learn how to do it reverse and go from front to back
if u dont understand make a search the topic has been mentioned previously