#660537 - 23/11/05 01:57 PM
men are from mars women are from venus etc
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just lost .... evil init
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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GIRL'S DIARY Saturday 5 February 2005 .
Saw him in the evening and he was acting really strangely. I went shopping in the afternoon with the girls and I did turn up a bit late so thought it might be that. The bar was really crowded and loud so I suggested we go somewhere quieter to talk. He was still very subdued and distracted so I suggested we go somewhere nice to eat. All through dinner he just didn't seem himself; he hardly laughed, and didn't seem to be paying any attention to me or to what I was saying. I just knew that something was wrong. He dropped me back home and I wondered if he was going to come in; he hesitated, but followed. I asked him again if there was something the matter but he just half shook his head and turned the television on. After about 10 minutes of silence, I said I was going upstairs to bed. I put my arms around him and told him that I loved him deeply. He just gave a sigh, and a sad sort of smile. He didn't follow me up, but later he did, and I was surprised when we made love. He still seemed distant and a bit cold, and I started to think that he was going to leave me, and that he had found someone else. I cried myself to sleep.
BLOKES DIARY
Saturday 5 February 2005
England lost to Wales. Gutted. Got a shag though!!
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#660538 - 23/11/05 01:59 PM
Re: men are from mars women are from venus etc
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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comfortably numb
Registered: 08/07/04
Loc: The countryside
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Hahaha!  Love it!
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#660540 - 23/11/05 11:00 PM
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[Re: Rouge Dragon]
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lovable smart-ass
Registered: 16/10/03
Loc: vineyards, Vienna, Austria
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#660541 - 24/11/05 12:05 AM
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[Re: Konsti]
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co-director of A.C.B.I.S.H.A.
Registered: 19/07/04
Loc: in the corner beside the filin...
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So true , so true
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#660543 - 24/11/05 02:05 AM
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[Re: Sethis]
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Dreamer
Registered: 15/03/02
Loc: York, England
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so brilliant.... doesn't quite follow my life, i tend to find more complicated guys. but like... *giggles* girls are well known for overanalyzing.. and guys for not communicating... yeah... 
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#660544 - 24/11/05 03:50 AM
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[Re: Kyrian]
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MIA
Registered: 16/01/05
Loc: Cardiff
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I reckon, there's something wrong with me.... I've always been the overanalyzing one! OMG! i'm becoming a girl!
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#660546 - 24/11/05 06:26 AM
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[Re: Asena]
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MIA
Registered: 16/01/05
Loc: Cardiff
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thankyou, not that i'd see it as a bad thing to be gay. but i am most definitely a heterosexual male, just made obvious by what happened in my trousers when an incredibly hot performance artist spoke to me earlier!
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#660547 - 24/11/05 08:03 AM
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[Re: xorba]
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Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Registered: 27/08/05
Loc: Southampton Uni
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you got attacked by a weasel? Dude, that sucks!
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#660548 - 24/11/05 10:45 AM
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[Re: Drudwyn]
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MIA
Registered: 16/01/05
Loc: Cardiff
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it hurt
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#660550 - 25/11/05 06:08 PM
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[Re: clarence_quack]
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member
Registered: 26/09/05
Loc: Brisbane
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i have actually just read 'he's just not that into you' by some writers from 'sex in the city', which i actually found really eye opening in terms of 'men are simple folk - there usually isn't much to read into his actions. if he doesn't call you, it means he doesn't want to go out with you' i would heartily recomended it to any woman who has ever had a monologue along the lines of the one ben-ja-men wrote.
actually, i've been meaning to ask straight men about one of the things brought up in the book. the author says women shouldn't as men out first? what do you reckon? as a single female of 26 this seems very disempowering.
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#660551 - 25/11/05 06:19 PM
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[Re: tillymoo]
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HOP Mad Doctor
Registered: 28/05/01
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Tilly, as some unsolicited gay male advice: It depends on the situation. Does he seem like the kind of guy who would ask you out? Then let him. Be interested, talk to him, flirt with him...and if he doesn't ask, then oh well.
Is he shy? Then ask him. He may just not have the confidence.
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#660552 - 25/11/05 10:08 PM
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[Re: Doc Lightning]
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resident fridge magnet
Registered: 03/10/02
Loc: Utrecht, The Netherlands
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LOL Benjamen  .... and in response to Tilly's thread-jacking (she started it, it's not my fault! or the mad doctor's!) - loads and loads of those books seem to say things along those lines, 'men need to hunt or else they lose interest' etc. - that kind of advice really annoys me. I have mainly female friends (i'm a girl too, btw), and they are constantly worrying out about this kind of thing: 'We only saw each other on Saturday, can i call him now it's monday, or will he freak out because I seem too eager and he'll think I want to get married next week and have eight kids by the end of the year!?" Groan. I don't see what the point is of reeling someone in by acting in a way that goes against your nature. You just end up in a relationship with a person who thinks you're someone else, i.e. less assertive, confident, and most importantly, not as much into them as you are! As far as I can see, if a person doesn't go for who you really are to begin with, what chance does the relationship have of working? (well.... to a degree... it is of course fine to let him think that your legs are naturally hairless and that your eyebrows are really that shape  )
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#660553 - 25/11/05 10:33 PM
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[Re: Nephtys]
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Insert Champagne Here
Registered: 21/07/03
Loc: without class distinction
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Tillymoo, I've had my guy friends tell me they like it when girls are more straight forward and make a move! I'm not exactly sure how credible the author of sex in the city is. but that's just me.
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#660555 - 25/11/05 11:40 PM
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[Re: TinklePants]
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Macaque of all trades
Registered: 27/04/05
Loc: wombling free...
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Quote Me: a blokes defense mechanism. If "I" don't know what I'm thinking, "SHE" can't. why try to analyze a guy? come on why? you'll stress yourself out and push him away. by trying to anticipate. everybody's different. This psyco-babble-bullsh*t is a real no-brainer. A man will act differently when alone with a girlfriend. the differences are usually subtle and no outsider can possibly understand the personal dynamics of a couple 100% GO WITH THE FLOW PEOPLE please  if it's good why try to understand why? it's like killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
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#660556 - 26/11/05 02:52 AM
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[Re: Mynci]
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UnNatural Scientist - Currently working on a Breville-legged monkey
Registered: 26/05/04
Loc: Bath Uni or Shrewsbury, UK
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Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.
Dunno who said it but it makes me smile
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#660558 - 26/11/05 04:08 AM
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[Re: boopoi]
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Silly Chavs
Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
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" if he doesn't call you, it means he doesn't want to go out with you'" WTF!?  He may just have better things to do! Just because he doesnt ring DOES NOT meant that he doesnt want to go out with her. He may not be able to afford it, he may have reasons he doesnt want to say, he may even feel uncomfortable talking on the phone in general. Sorry, but im going through this whole, lack of communication and therein, understanding thing at the moment. Its making me feel uncomfortable and driving me mental.  But thats for a differnt thread. *rturns thread to previous topic*
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#660559 - 26/11/05 07:17 AM
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[Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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....of doom!
Registered: 17/04/05
Loc: Hastings, UK
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Written by: UnbeatenChampionOfFighting
He may just have better things to do!
Just because he doesnt ring DOES NOT meant that he doesnt want to go out with her. He may not be able to afford it, he may have reasons he doesnt want to say, he may even feel uncomfortable talking on the phone in general.
better things to do? don't tell her that
but generally its true - if they can't afford it, they say that. if there are other reasons you get a mumbled type thing that occasionally makes you think 'hes cheating on me OH MY GOD!' (eventually you get used to it).
if you're crap on the phone, there are other methods of communication!
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#660560 - 26/11/05 05:30 PM
Re: men are from mars women are from venus etc
[Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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member
Registered: 26/09/05
Loc: Brisbane
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Written by: UnbeatenChampionOfFighting
" if he doesn't call you, it means he doesn't want to go out with you'" WTF!? 
He may just have better things to do! Just because he doesnt ring DOES NOT meant that he doesnt want to go out with her. He may not be able to afford it, he may have reasons he doesnt want to say, he may even feel uncomfortable talking on the phone in general.
Sorry, but im going through this whole, lack of communication and therein, understanding thing at the moment. Its making me feel uncomfortable and driving me mental.
*rturns thread to previous topic*
well, that's kind of the point. the book was saying 'don't make up excuses for men - if he does want to ask you out and he can't get you out of his head he will NOT have other things to do, or make up excuses - he will just call'
and if there are reasons he doesn't want to say then i am not sure i would want him to call at all - that goes back to the lack of communication
to tell you the truth i am very happy being single at the moment - i enjoy not having to negotiate my time with anyone else, i enjoy having my bed to mysellf (although i do enjoy the odd snuggle with a lovely gay man in my bed ) and i certainly don't miss being belittled by a man just so your self esteem plummets and you become reliant on him, which is where my last relationship ended up 
i really didn't mean to cause such a stir with these comments, and sorry to ben-ja-men for hijacking what was a very funny post 
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#660562 - 01/12/05 08:40 PM
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[Re: Fearpig]
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veteran
Registered: 27/11/03
Loc: Now in the land of Oz
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all of what they said. as for my last man making me feel like [censored]? well he did, but not in a "your useless. go cook me some eggs" way. more of a "im a usless bum who spends all the money that i get from my mum on weed, and never to a think with you and always blow you off to do things with my mates" kind of way. he just took me for granted. and im sorry to say it but he did start to drag me down. it was like having a little Chihuahua constently nipping at my heel and pulling me back. and for all that, for a wee while there i thought i could almost love him. as for the no calling thing... well one of my best mates meet a guy, dated him for a month or so... and then didnt hear back from him for 2 weeks. so she was guttered but didnt call him. in the end one someone got him to call her, and he said that he had been meaning to call him but got distracted. they have now been together for over 2years and are looking at buying a house. she was telling me about it the other day, and said that at the time she was really pissed and like WTF but now that she ones him is just like that. hel go to do something and then someone will call him, or do something and he completly forgets. hes the sweets guy in the world. *again back to thread topic* a man and a woman fall apart from eachother after making mindblowing love woman thinking: "That was wonderfull! well i think it was wonderfull. maybe he doesnt think that was any good? why isnt he hugging me? maybe it wasnt any good! why doesnt he put his arm around me. oh my gosh he hates me! he cant even look at me. hes just stearing up at the roof! why doesnt he talk to me. why doesnt he cuddle me? he doesnt love me anymore! he wants to break up! hes going to leave me!" Man stearing at the celing thinking: "i wonder how flys stick on the roof...?" LOL how ture is that?  men i tell ya. they are simple minded creatures  love em all the same tho
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#660563 - 01/12/05 10:32 PM
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[Re: Fire Bunny]
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Sweet talented nutter
Registered: 03/08/02
Loc: Brisbane Oz
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Have you guys ever thought that the guy might have issues about himself tilly.
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