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#26951 - 26/02/02 10:41 AM how long poing vs skill
FirePoi-boy Offline
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Registered: 22/09/01
Loc: Bantry, Ireland
I wanted to get an idea of how long some of the newer people to poi have been doing it and how they're progressing. I've been doing it for around 7 months and i still feel very green. So far i've gotten down:
weave forwards and rev
windmill
corkscrew
fountain
wave
btb weave forward and rev with transitions (barely and not on fire yet)
and I've just broken my practice poi trying to get thread the needle.
I just want to know how others are getting on.

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#26952 - 26/02/02 10:43 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
shizN0T Offline
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Registered: 18/07/01
Loc: Stroudsburg, PA, USA
weave forwards and rev
windmill
corkscrew
fountain
wave
TTN
3 point TTN

I dont think I will ever do BTB

*adds 'I have been spinning about 9 months. but the cold has slowed me down ALOT*

[This message has been edited by shizN0T (edited 26 February 2002).]

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#26953 - 26/02/02 11:09 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Paddy Offline
back from the dead...sort of

Registered: 23/02/02
Loc: 43°41'N 79°38'W
At 3 months, I have:
weave f & b
wave
windmill
fountain
alternate butterfly combination
low and high turns and some transitions

I'd say I practice for half an hour to an hour per day.

I've the same problem as you shizNOT...I first picked up the poi in december. This is the first winter I've ever really wanted to go away...

Am I the only one who thinks the butterfly isn't so much of a beginner move as it's made out to be? Every time I think I have it, >smack<, the poi hit each other and then, most often, me. For those of you who have it down, how long did it take?

I'm off to bash some poi now.


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#26954 - 27/02/02 12:38 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Pele Moderator Offline
the henna lady

Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
just over 2 years and running and I still think I spin like shite on most days, mediocre on good days. Progression in moves is not how I like it and the winter just seems to thwart things.

I still feel like a newbie on any given day.


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#26955 - 27/02/02 12:45 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Demonthesys Offline
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Registered: 19/09/01
Loc: Walnut Creek
6 months and I can do pretty much everything on the HoP lessons page smoothly except for those damn btb stuff (which i cannot do at all )...o well...got good with transitions and i know a few good wraps...
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#26956 - 26/02/02 01:24 PM Re: how long poing vs skill
Pheelgood Offline
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Registered: 08/12/01
Loc: London
weave, fwd & reverse
maybe a five beat weave, but i don't really get all this beat stuff yet, so might only be three - who knows?
That kind of up and down one where they're spinning like pizzas round your head. all kinds of that one.
Butterfly, mexican wave (where it stays over your shoulder?)
I've kind of got to a stage where i pretty much know which of the moves that i can do can lead into another of the moves that i can do, and i can change direction by turning round, all without hitting myself in head. unless i get really excited!
i can pretend i'm skipping rope like Rocky, but i gues that's not really a move...
I just learned how to remove facial hair by 'aspirating', and i'm really keen to have a go at behind the back weaving - but i have to get my practice poi back off John first.

Okay, so i can't really play the name game, but after five months and a winter in Egham; i feel like i'm having fun. yay!


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#26957 - 26/02/02 03:15 PM Re: how long poing vs skill
The Welcome Matt Offline
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Registered: 27/11/01
Loc: Manchester NH USA
I have been spinning since like November. I haven't tried fire yet, but I have a pair of Beaming poi and Buzz poi.

I can do everthing on the lessons page except for the BTB weave, 5 beat weave, and the multi-beat corkscrew. I can do a bunch of my own little combos and transitions, but thats it. I am with ShizNOT. I don't think I will ever get the BTB weave. The butterfly is easy, but my hands just don't want to cooperate

Matt

PS- ShizNOT.. what is that 3 point TTN you mentioned?
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#26958 - 26/02/02 03:16 PM Re: how long poing vs skill
digital milk Offline
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Registered: 24/11/01
Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
well.. ive been going at it since halloween..and ive learned:
-all the butterfly stuff..
-the weave, forward+backward
-all of the turns (on this site atleast)
-ttn
-something weird i came up with?
-and a helicopter type of move

and im 100% anti-btb..

1/4 of the time i hit myself attempting these hehe
i still have yet to try fire..


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#26959 - 26/02/02 05:27 PM Re: how long poing vs skill
Knagi Offline
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Registered: 28/06/01
Loc: Brunswick, Ohio
I've been spinning for almost a year... I can let my mind go and let the poi do what they wish without hitting myself

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#26960 - 26/02/02 11:03 PM Re: how long poing vs skill
TheBovrilMonkey Offline
Liquid Cow

Registered: 03/09/01
Loc: High Wycombe, England
I've been spinning since the end of August/beginning of September last year.
I can do:
The Weave - 5 beats forwards, 3 beats backwards with a few turns
The butterfly - Giant, Alternate, Overhead and One handed
The low wave
High, Low and Tuck turns
The corkscrew
and a couple of wraps and transistions.

I found that I would practise loads as soon as I got my poi during the summer, but when it started getting really cold, I didn't practise as much because my parents wouldn't let me practise in the house.
Now, just as it's starting to get warmer, I've broken my wrist.
Oh well, looks like I'll be starting almost from scratch when my cast comes off. It's going to be hard to not just jump in and try to get back to where I was as fast as possible, but I'll probably mangle my wrist even more if I do that.

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#26961 - 27/02/02 12:26 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Durbs Global Moderator Offline
Classically British

Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
ummmmmm, not sure if I'm a newbie anymore...
I've been twirling for about 5 months (?) and so far can do all the moves from the Art of Poi video and all on this site except for reverse 5bt weave and 3 point TTN (Which I just don't get)

I seem have stopped learning moves now though as I've started learning contact juggling... Still twirl most days though.

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#26962 - 27/02/02 12:47 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
_Stix_ Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 15/02/02
Loc: la-la land
Hi...

Don't really know the names of the moves I do but I can spin fire until they go out without doing the same moves..I know I can do a BTB butterfly..just.. working on more BTB moves at the..hopefully should be meeting up with another spinner in my town and he may be able to tell me what the moves are called and hopefully teach me a few more tricks..
but no matter what stage you are at - as long as you enjoy it and keep going.. no worries!

Kind regards
RedDragon.

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#26963 - 27/02/02 01:26 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
phartbreath Offline
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Registered: 13/02/02
Loc: Willmar MN USA
well.. made my first set off tennis ball poi just after x-mass..since then i've learn all the in front stuff on this websight ( 'cept for 5 beat weave, which i nead to learn to keep my hand closser together in order to make it : accually did do 5 beats on my left side once, but when i went to the right side i got all tangled up...keep on working on that )

also.. just this night i was pulling off 3 beat cork-screws (??)and getting some btb butterflies..

woo woo

phart


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#26964 - 27/02/02 04:00 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
MrConfused Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
Loc: I wish I knew
I've been twirling for about 8 months, and can do:
butterfly
reverse b/f
overhead b/f
alternate b/f
mexican wave
horizontal b/f
horizontal mexican wave
low wave
reverse low wave
reverse mexican wave
reverse overhead b/f
reverse (but not forwards) btb b/f
1 handed b/f (but not consistently)
(mix & match combinations of these)

Weave (3 & 5 beat)
Reverse weave (3 & (as of yesterday)5 beat)
windmill (normal & quad)
reverse windmill (normal & quad)
sort of low windmill thing (windmill at hip level)
chasing the sun (forward & reverse)
btb weave (forward and reverse)
buzzsaw
(can move fairly smoothly between most of these)

Few basic wraps, transitions and turns.


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#26965 - 27/02/02 04:11 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Blackfire Offline
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Registered: 23/11/01
Loc: Stuttgart, Germany
I spin for 6 month now. In this time I got:
-all the butterfly stuff (expect the alternate)
-3 beat weave forward + reverse
-5 beat weave forward
-BTB weave reverse
-windmill
-corkscrew
-fountain
But I can't do any transistion and in winter it was too cold to practice often.

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#26966 - 27/02/02 04:32 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
shizN0T Offline
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Registered: 18/07/01
Loc: Stroudsburg, PA, USA
well... as we all know, its tricky to name moves.

MY understanding of the 3 point TTN is...

Its like doing a weave, but doing TTN.
the poi move from left to front to right in a TTN. picture a weave with the poi going opposite direction

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#26967 - 27/02/02 04:46 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
clairebear Offline
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Registered: 15/11/01
Loc: jersey - Little rock, not quit...

I think I need to practice more (well I knew that anyways, but you guys have just given me a well deserved kick in the behind to get moving again )
I've been spinning for about 3 years now and can do most of the moves on the lesson site but my main problem is turns. I just can't wrap my head round them (mainly end up wrapping poi round my head!!! )

lonely playing on your own in the rain though

I'm determined to sort it before summer though!
This is one bear that'll not be beaten, besides I have to come out of hibernation at somepoint.

Big love n light,

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#26968 - 27/02/02 05:00 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
clairebear Offline
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Registered: 15/11/01
Loc: jersey - Little rock, not quit...
shizn0t,

I'm on Jersey in the channel islands, a little 5 by 9 island in the english channel, just north of St Malo in France.

(sorry, I can't reply to emails from work, they don't like us comunicating with the outside world )

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#26969 - 27/02/02 06:17 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
MrConfused Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
Loc: I wish I knew
Forgot to mention:
TTN and 3 point TTN thing (although I don't really do it as TTN, just pass the butterfly across my body)
Corkscrew (normal & quad)
Reverse corkscrew (normal & quad)
Crossovers (forward and reverse)
and a few others that don't really have names, and I'm a bit shit at describing them.
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#26970 - 27/02/02 06:20 AM Re: how long poing vs skill
Anonymous
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At the end of last year my (then) Girlfriend introduced me to the fantastic world of fire performance, after a very messy breakup from my point of view, I didn't want to do anything that reminded me of her.
Then at the beginning of this year I thought sod it I'll give it a go, so I made my own poi and staff, and have been at it since.
I was a bit stupid in that I only knew how to make fire poi, and have burned myself a LOT while in the early stages.
Now I can do:
Butterfly- all but the BTB
Weave- 3beat f/r 5 beat f
Corkscrew-f/b, vertical corkscrew f
mexican wave f/b
turning weaves
tuck turn/low turn
I'm working on a move where you do a couple of beats over head, then jump over the crossing poi, (like a corkscrew)
Also I can't do anything BTB, I keep hitting myself in the back of the head!

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