Vegetable oils and fire breathing

Ok, so I tried to get this answered in an earlier post, but nobody seemed to actually read my entire post in order to find out what my question was. Instead everyone jumped to conclusions and gave me a lot of wonderful info that I already had. Here we go:

1. Will vegetable oil work as the fuel for firebreathing?

2. If I blow a mouthfull of vegetable oil (ie: olive oil, corn oil, peanut oil, palm oil) at a flaming torch, will it burn well at all, and will I be at any more risk for blowback?

thanks

no, and no

sorry arashi...you are very wrong about it not working!

I used vegetable oil last night for some Fire Breathing, and my flames where just as big as the other people who were using unheathy fuels (like kerosine and lamp oil)

I was using soybean oil, but almost any cooking oil will work

there is a secreat however, in order to get the best flame. keep the oil in a large thermos with HOT water in it. You see, where vegetable oil is cold you have to be perfect to get a good flame, but when you get it real warm, it is thinner and will produce an impresive flame. (just don't keep it hot enough to burn your mouth )

I think the chance of a blow back is a LOT less that other fuels.

I did a lot of research after posting this topic, and I ran across the topic of biodiesel. I got ahold of a gallon of this stuff, and it works really quite well. Its based on soybean oil, and its less than 1/10 as toxic as table salt, with a very high flashpoint, so its a much safer fuel than anything else I have seen used. I have been told that it is a bit more flammable than vegetable oil, but I haven't really used vegetable oil as a fuel before. If you are interested in a safer fuel than kero, check this stuff out.

I might just have to give vegetable oil a try one of these days when I run out of biodiesel. It would sure be a hell of a lot cheaper (unless you can lay your hands on some free biodiesel like me )

peace

I was wondering if there is anything which will disolve in paraffin to make a coloured flame, that is safe for fuel aspiration (Fire Breathing)?

[ 05 May 2002, 03:35: Message edited by: Rainbow the magician ]

theres only one way to find out...

I'm skeptical that you'd get colored flames using anything other than denatured alcohol for fuel--the problem is that most fuels' natural color when burning overwhelms the colorant's color, even if you can get the colorant to dissolve. Plus the chemicals used for coloring flames are usually even nastier than the fuel, health-wise.

cool... i'm glad i'm wrong!! i tried all of them that i could, even warmed up lard and alcohol!! what brand soybean oil did you use?
oh boy oh boy oh boy!!!
i've been trying to get some orange oil fuel hapennin... forget that, now!!!

also, santana, are we talking wimpy little ten footers, or nice happy thirty footers? i just went to whole foods and they didn't even have any, no wonder i never found it. and somebody told me biodiesel sucks. so how big are we talking here?

Beating the dead horse again I see. There have been all sorts of threads started on this vary topic. You should do a search.

Thirty foot flame.....I'd like to see that.

well, shoot... come to a show (it's much easier to do one indoors that's that big- i'm not sure i could do it outdoors). and i'll do that search, but i hope someone that's good has written about this soybean action, cause i could never get it to work. i'm gonna be busy 2nite!

Are you shure that you mean 30 feet?
That's three stories tall. You must have one hell of a set of lungs.

The only time I've ever seen a fire ball that big at a performance was done in quite an opoosite manner. He had two dust pans full of powderd non-dairy creamer and he dumped the creamer off the balcony over a torch (also on the balcony) and that resulted in a three story fire ball. But doing it spitting fuel out of your mouth? Forgive me if I'm a little bet skeptical.

I agree with Sickpuppy. As far as I can tell there's just no way. Maybe that Rum is imparing your judgement.

well, that is of course, my best length, and i need to use lamp oil to do it... but yes, it is possible! with a real good blow, the flame puffs up and travels high into the air like a mushroom cloud way beyond what you are actually blowing. i can get twenty feet easily, make it dance on the ceiling in a metal building. course the copious 'smoking' is beginning to take it's toll, and i haven't been blowin with lamp oil lately...but i can! im no liar! you just have to blow really hard, with tai chi deep breathing type ab squeezing, and a long, steady stream...

Ok, I really can not get any type of vegetble oil to work. Got some Soya bean, heated it up as hot as I could stand and still absolutely nothing. Nice smell though!
Thirty feet????? Very sceptical, my biggest is about 9. That felt really big though. To be fair I do not consider myself much of a fire breather but my limited knowledge combined with common sense tells me that 30 is somewhat unlikely.

Howdy Kids,

Around a year ago I was talking with the nice people at Guiness World Records about establishing a Fire Breathing record. I can fire breathe to around about 25 feet pretty consistantly in still weather. The were talking about flying me to London to make my record attempt on their little show GWRPT (Guinness World Records Prime Time). I talked with them for around a month while we were working out dates and arrangements etc.

One day I got an email from the producer of GWRPT (Guinness World Records Prime Time) telling me that they had just found a previous record of some guy who had produced a flame which measured 43 feet from his mouth. He told me that I would have to be able to compete with this record if I wanted to appear on their show, GWRPT (Guinness World Records Prime Time). I told him I could not do so, and I never heard from him again.

I wrote him several letters/emails asking him if I could see the evidence of this previously established record, but I never heard back from them. 43 feet does seem awfully long. But you never know.

And so I never appeared on GWRPT (Guinness World Records Prime Time).

Ðraevon
of Incendium
www.incendium.org

I DO NOT LIE!!!!!! let me state that for the record. unless i'm being a personality that is a liar, in which case i will talk funny, usually. or have a banana in my nose. now that i've been backed up, let me say... thirty feet isn't even too hard if you got a good set of lungs! get me back on my weecycle and watch me, now, hey! work work...
hey draevon... maybe that guy is using some crazy fuel mix. i bet he's got some coleman or something HIGHLY flammable in there. did they say what the fuel was? i'm going for that record, dammit! see you on the battlefield! hamekameha!

Well...I must admit, either I'm another sceptic or there is a language problem here...

My first reaction to arashi's comment was that he was talking about a 30 foot LONG fireball. I don't think that is possible. Please let me know if that intepretation is actually correct because others may have thought that at first too ...

However, if you are talking about either

1. A fire ball that travels 30 feet upwards, from the time you blow to the time it goes out.

or

2. A technique where you 'follow' your first fire with more so that a stream chases the first bit up into the sky, possibly extending for dozens of feet.

Number 2 sounds to me like a plausible explanation, although I thought you only used that "other" fuel to breathe with (the one I feel is just as dangerous as kero or lamp oil).

Is either of these what you do?

Have I understood this or not?

well, i'm dumb an i'm not sure what # 2 is, do you mean like blow more than one time, in spurts? no. just one big long one. with a good blow, you get a good 3 or 4 seconds(or more) of really strong exhalation. by then, the plume just tumbles up over itself and does a mushroom cloud. and the top of it at the end of it's life is WELL over twenty feet in the air. i mean, i'm 6 feet tall, and anybody that thinks a ten foot fireball is big simply hasn't seen a big fireball. it just takes a large lung capacity. "cough cough"
and i do use lamp oil 'sometimes'. you need it to get real big balls. everybody likes big balls. "the one <WE> feel is just as dangerous as kero or lamp oil." read what i was saying carefully, i'm just bad at talking. better yet don't i think that whole communication was disasterous from the get go. just trying to help, but oh well...

Where are you from? i want to come and see you do a "big" fireball. I am not saying that you are lying to us, just that you have misinterpreted scale a little.
Draevon, 43 feet!!!!! that is truly amazing, i would love to have seen the guy who can do that.
It sounds like both draevon and arashi could give me tips on my Fire Breathing, like I said 9 feet is my absolute record, I average around 4 - 5. Do you guys have a special technique for these huge plumes or is it just blow really hard?