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#346957 - 17/06/04 01:18 AM UK - Health & Safety for Fire Spinning
Durbs Global Moderator Offline
Classically British

Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
Well, there's quite a few "I think...", "someone told me...", "mum says..." with regards to the legalities in terms of Health and Safety and fire spinners.
So I wrote to the Governmen and asked them what the laws are - here's there response.

I've written back asking to answer a couple more questions with regards to mentions of laws, namely; the "you have to be x meters from a road to do fire" and "the audiance has to be x distance from the performers" laws. I'll post them when the answer comes but until then *deep breath*

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Thank you for your enquiry regarding health and safety during fire
performances.

There are no specific regulations or guidance set down by the HSE in
relation to your business. However, safe working practices should be
determined through the findings of a risk assessment. Risk assessments are
a legal requirement under the Management of Health and Safety at Work
Regulations 1999.

Regulation 3 stipulates that:

Every employer shall make a suitable and sufficient assessment of -

(a) the risks to the health and safety of his employees to which they are
exposed whilst they are at work; and

(b) the risks to the health and safety of persons not in his employment
arising out of or in connection with the conduct by him of his undertaking.

The Approved Code of Practice goes on to say:

This regulation requires all employers and self-employed people to assess
the risks to workers and any others who may be affected by their work or
business. This will enable them to identify the measures they need to take
to comply with health and safety law. All employers should carry out a
systematic general examination of the effect of their undertaking, their
work activities and the condition of the premises. Those who employ five or
more employees should record the significant findings of that risk
assessment.

A risk assessment is carried out to identify the risks to health and safety
to any person arising out of, or in connection with, work or the conduct of
their undertaking. It should identify how the risks arise and how they
impact on those affected. This information is needed to make decisions on
how to manage those risks so that the decisions are made in an informed,
rational and structured manner, and the action taken is proportionate.

A risk assessment should usually involve identifying the hazards present in
any working environment or arising out of commercial activities and work
activities, and evaluating the extent of the risks involved, taking into
account existing precautions and their effectiveness. In this approved
code of practice:

(a) a hazard is something with the potential to cause harm (this can
include articles, substances, plant or machines, methods of work, the
working environment and other aspects of work organisation);
(b) a risk is the likelihood of potential harm from that hazard being
realised. The extent of the risk will depend on:

(i) the likelihood of that harm occurring;

(ii) the potential severity of that harm, i.e. of any resultant injury or
adverse health effect; and

(iii) the population which might be affected by the hazard, i.e. the number
of people who might be exposed.

Reference: L21: The Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations
1999: Approved Code of Practice and Guidance, ISBN 0717624889, £8.00.

The HSE also produce the following publications on risk assessment:

HSG183, Five Steps to Risk Assessment : Case Studies, ISBN 0717615804,
£6.75.
INDG163, Five Steps to risk assessments, single copies are free.
INDG218, A guide to risk assessments requirements, single copies are free.

The free leaflets referenced above are available to download online at the
following web address:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/raindex.htm



The following information is taken from the publication 'Fire Safety: An
Employers Guide':

An introduction
The term 'fire precautions' includes matters which are the subject of legal
requirements under specific fire precautions legislation. These include
the Fire Regulations and the Fire Precautions Act 1971 (in Northern Ireland
the Fire Services (Northern Ireland) Order 1984 (as amended)) and, more
generally, under health and safety legislation including the Health and
Safety at Work etc Act 1974 and regulations made under that Act.

Fire precautions legislation deals with general fire precautions. These
include:
  • means of detection and giving warning in case of fire;
  • the provision of means of escape;
  • means of fighting fire; and
  • the training of staff in fire safety.

    The Fire Regulations also include a requirement to undertake an assessment
    of the fire risks. (In this guide, the term 'fire risk' collectively
    describes both the risk of fire occurring and the risk to people in the
    event of fire.)

    The Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 and regulations made under it
    cover the provision of process fire precautions which are intended to
    prevent the outbreak of a fire or minimise the consequences should one
    occur. Matters falling within the scope of the Act include the storage of
    flammable materials, the control of flammable vapours, standards of
    housekeeping, safe systems of work, the control of sources of ignition and
    the provision of appropriate training.

    These precautions are enforced by inspectors from the Health and Safety
    Executive (HSE) or the local authority.

    Between them, the Fire Regulations and the Management of Health and Safety
    at Work Regulations 1992 (as amended) require you to:
  • carry out a fire risk assessment of your workplace (you must consider
    all your employees and all other people who may be affected by a fire in
    the workplace and you are required to make adequate provision for any
    disabled people with special needs who use or may be present at your
    premises);
  • identify the significant findings of the risk assessment and the
    details of anyone who might be especially at risk in case of fire (these
    must be recorded if you employ more than five people);
  • provide and maintain such fire precautions as are necessary to
    safeguard those who use your workplace; and
  • provide information, instruction and training to your employees about
    the fire precautions in your workplace.

    The risk assessment will help you decide the nature and extent of the
    general and process fire precautions which you need to provide.

    There are six other legal duties you need to know:
  • Where it is necessary to safeguard the safety of your employees, you
    must nominate people to undertake any special roles which are required
    under your emergency plan (you can nominate yourself for this purpose).
  • You must consult your employees (or their elected representatives or
    appointed trade union safety representatives) about the nomination of
    people to carry out particular roles in connection with fire safety and
    about proposals for improving the fire precautions.
  • You must inform other employers who also have workplaces in the
    building of any significant risks you found which might affect the safety
    of their employees - and co-operate with them about the measures proposed
    to reduce/control those risks.
  • If you are not an employer but have any control of premises which
    contain more than one workplace, you are also responsible for ensuring that
    the requirements of the Fire Regulations are complied with in those parts
    you have control over.
  • You must establish a suitable means of contacting the emergency
    services, and ensure that they can be called easily.
  • The law requires your employees to co-operate with you to ensure the
    workplace is safe from fire and its effects, and not to do anything which
    will place themselves or other people at risk.

    In some workplaces you may need to apply for a fire certificate, a licence,
    or other form of approval before using the workplace.

    Reference: Fire Safety: an employers guide, ISBN 0113412290, priced at
    £9.95.


    However, as an information service we are only able to provide information
    that is published in HSE regulations or associated guidance.

    For advice/ interpretation on the above subject you will need to speak to
    your enforcing authority for health and safety.

    The enforcing office which covers your workplace is dependent on the nature
    of the activities carried out at that workplace.

    The Environmental Health Department of the Local Authority enforce over
    premises such as retailing, some warehouses, most offices, hotels and
    catering, sports, leisure, consumer services and places of worship.

    The telephone number for the Environmental Health Department of the Local
    Authority should be available from your local telephone directory.
    Alternatively, the details of all local authorities can found via the A-Z
    of local authorities facility of the following website: www.ukonline.gov.uk


    All HSE documents are available from HSE Books. The contact details are as
    follows:

    HSE Books
    PO Box 1999,
    Sudbury,
    Suffolk, CO10 2WA.
    Tel: 01787 881165
    Fax: 01787 313995
    Email: hsebooks@prolog.uk.com
    http://www.hsebooks.co.uk

    There are three methods of payment currently available from HSE Books:
    1. Via the post, bank cheques/ postal orders made payable to HSE Books
    2. Via the telephone, American Express, Master Card or Visa
    3. Existing approved credit account customers may use the Banks Automated
    Clearing System
    (BACS).However, new accounts are not being set up.

    Alternatively the fire document can be viewed and downloaded free of charge
    from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister's website:

    http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/fire/index.htm

    Further information on this subject can be obtained from the Fire Policy
    Division of the Office of the Deputy Prime
    Minister :

    Fire Policy Division
    Horseferry House
    Dean Ryle Street
    London
    SW1P 2AW
    Tel: 020 7944 8104

    Alternatively you could speak to your local fire authority. Their contact
    details can be located in your regional directory
    or from the following URL address:

    http://www.firesafetytoolbox.org.uk/ncfsc/cfsdirectory/default.htm

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    #346958 - 17/06/04 01:50 AM Re: UK - Health & Safety for Fire Spinning [Re: Durbs]
    Eera Offline
    old hand

    Registered: 29/05/03
    Loc: In a test pit, Mackay
    Does this mean that if you're not doing it professionally you can be as dumb as you like and no-one officially cares?

    Man, imagine having to read that stuff for a living. Solicitors have my admiration.

    Thanks for taking time out to ask, anyhoo.
    _________________________
    There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.

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    #346959 - 17/06/04 01:57 AM Re: UK - Health & Safety for Fire Spinning [Re: Eera]
    Durbs Global Moderator Offline
    Classically British

    Registered: 23/09/01
    Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
    If you're not doing it professionally, it's a completely different kettle of fish and subject to a lot more complex stuff (liability being the main one) - it means that Health & Safety won't have anything to do with it, but the law might (Endagering others for example)
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    Burner of Toast
    Spinner of poi
    Slacker of enormous magnitude

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    #346960 - 17/06/04 02:37 AM Re: UK - Health & Safety for Fire Spinning [Re: Durbs]
    Mint Sauce Offline
    veteran

    Registered: 07/09/03
    Loc: Lancs England
    aggggg help!!! cant i just go round spinning with my lets burn everything atituide DAM will have to start being considerate to the children now


    any info on amture spinning would be most helpfull (pleed beg beg sniffel)
    _________________________
    before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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    #346961 - 26/06/04 11:02 PM Re: UK - Health & Safety for Fire Spinning [Re: Mint Sauce]
    caz86 Offline
    Twister Fire Starter ridin on a tratter

    Registered: 27/10/03
    Loc: Bristol/Exeter UK
    Yeh I think if your not a professional then you can only get in trouble undercivil law. So if you failed to show enough precaution for others safety and someone got hurt, or someone's property got damaged then you would have to pay enough money for that "person's life to be returned to the state it was before the accident"....or something like that. So be careful! Or get insurance!

    When does spinning for fun become a profession tho?! Do firespinners have a union?! And why is insurance sooooo expensive!?

    Caz x
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    Caz

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