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#731222 - 08/05/06 08:45 PM Tails, good or bad?
LadyKrystalWebb Offline
Me!

Registered: 22/03/06
Loc: Hampshire, UK
I put tails on my homemade poi and since doing so I can't seem to learn any new moves and I can no longer do buzzsaw (my fav move!). Has anybody else had trouble when they've used tails or am I just having a bad week? I'm tempted to cut them off but they are so pretty!

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#731223 - 08/05/06 08:48 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: LadyKrystalWebb]
maus Offline
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Registered: 14/07/05
Loc: Sihanoukville, cambodia
Personally i hate tails....yeah they look pretty,
But if your just learning they make evrything a lot harder...
...and they whip you in the face when you're doing the buzzsaw sometimes...

...and they tangle...

Yeah cut em off!



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#731224 - 08/05/06 08:49 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: maus]
LadyKrystalWebb Offline
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Registered: 22/03/06
Loc: Hampshire, UK
Oh good, it's not just me being [censored] then lol. Can I have some more opinions? come on ppl!
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#731225 - 08/05/06 08:52 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: LadyKrystalWebb]
maus Offline
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Registered: 14/07/05
Loc: Sihanoukville, cambodia
Think its a bit early in the morning for too many hoppers to be up...might be better to check back in a few hours!!

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#731226 - 08/05/06 09:08 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: maus]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Loc: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr
how long are the tails? Long tails are cr*p for doing tricks like that, and dont even attempt any tangles! try shortening the tails, it may let you get away with a buzzsaw! I have different poi for different tricks - my socks for wraps and tangles, tails for long arm prettyness, but then i have my fluffies that are a general all rounder!
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#731227 - 08/05/06 09:17 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: TinklePants]
animatEd Offline
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Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
There comes a time in every spinners life when you realise you're not really gonna progress past the three beat weave really fast stage, or learn anything other than reels without getting rid of the tails...
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#731228 - 08/05/06 10:40 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: animatEd]
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#731229 - 08/05/06 11:15 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Igirisujin Offline
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Registered: 10/07/05
Loc: Preston
Nah thats not true, tails make poi difficult but if you can learn with tails (some of the more harder poi) then its something to be proud of. If you can detatch your tails take them off and spin with them occasionaly but people have said that after they cut off there tails they start to miss them.

Ide recomend buying another set of poi without tails, you can never have enough poi
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#731230 - 08/05/06 11:20 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: Igirisujin]
Kieron Offline
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Registered: 20/07/05
I hate spinning with tails, my tailed poi haven't been taken out of my bag since the first week I got them...the first week I started spinning, I don't regret not using them.

Of course I would advise using socks instead of my approach of buying fire poi to use and practice with straight away. Play taught me to love sock poi though.
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#731231 - 08/05/06 11:26 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: Igirisujin]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
Its not the the actual tails Im not too keen on, its generally the string that everything is held together with. Its about 18.3 times harder to tangle with strings than socks or cones.
String blisters your fingers much quicker too due to its reduced thickness too.

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#731232 - 09/05/06 04:36 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Invader Xan Offline
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Registered: 07/05/05
Loc: Over the hills and far away
I don't get why everyone's so against tails. Sure, they slap you in the face occasionally, but it beats a black eye from a monkey fist. Mind you, short fat tails are horrible to spin with. I prefer cobras...

I like to learn with something easier then use flags or tails when I'm showing off. Tails don't make poi difficult. They just show up all your errors a hell of a lot more. You might only be slightly out of plane, but it'll be painfully obvious if you're spinning with tails.
In other words, use them to polish moves that you can already do (using tails was how I learned to keep my 3bt nice and smooth), but don't use them to learn new ones.

Oh, and contrary to popular belief, I tried hyperlooping with tails the other week and it was easy...
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#731233 - 09/05/06 04:41 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: Invader Xan]
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and Airwraps?
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#731234 - 09/05/06 04:51 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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Registered: 07/05/05
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Heh... I think airwraps are just generally a pain, tails or otherwise.
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#731235 - 09/05/06 04:54 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: Invader Xan]
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#731236 - 09/05/06 05:15 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
tails = gooood. really should buy myself some...

airwaps with tails are really hard unless youve got shortish tails. hyperloops work okay. antipsin feels like it looks excellent with tails.. (was playing with some earlier... not sure if ive seen anyone else antispinning tails... theres a shortage of tailed poi spinners )antispin buzzsaw is a fun one to try the also felt wicked for doing inversions and stuff although i reckon if you tails are too long this would be problematic. i learnt (my first reallllly sketchy) isolations with tails... makes learning them easy cos all you have to do is try to grab the end of the other pois tail...
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#731237 - 09/05/06 05:26 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: oli]
CrazyHippyChick Offline
errrrrr what?

Registered: 06/07/04
Loc: cloud 9
i love tails and they are the reason i started spinning along with fire of course. they are so pretty but they are a pain in the ass. i kinda hindered myself( or thats my excuse anyways) for ages for refusing to use anything but tails. if u wanna stick with tails i would recomend u practice new moves with sommat like socks to get u there then spin those tails baby cos they are the best you know. x
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#731238 - 09/05/06 05:35 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: CrazyHippyChick]
faith enfire Offline
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Registered: 27/01/06
Loc: Wisconsin
love my tails it's really hard but u see all the mistakes and i learn how to fix them better
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#731239 - 09/05/06 06:50 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: faith enfire]
Kieron Offline
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Registered: 20/07/05
I hate my tails, they were the first poi I got and I used them for a week or two before just buying a couple of pairs of fire poi.

They've not been out of my bag since then, I just practiced with fire poi untill Play when I was converted to socks.
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#731240 - 09/05/06 07:24 AM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: Kieron]
milka Offline
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Registered: 09/06/05
Loc: Limoges (France)
I hate tails too.

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#731241 - 09/05/06 04:49 PM Re: Tails, good or bad? [Re: milka]
Suibom Offline
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Registered: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
Bah.. you silly folk.. Tails are lots of fun.. Of course, as with any poi things, the materials do make a difference. First off, if you have strings, get freakin rid of them!! Strings are evil. Go get yourself some ball chain, makes it much more lovely.

I use Zuni poi with pretty long tails and don't have too much of a problem with stuff. I can accomplish just about everything I can do with the tails, including airwraps, barrel rolls, atomic barrels (just started since it's all the rage, so they're not the prettiest, but doable), isolations..

I'll make a vid if wanted.

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