Spinners Vs Jugglers

When I started juggling there was no such thing as spinners, or if there was nobody had realised yet.

There were diffrent types of juggler, contact jugglers, poi, staff, cigar boxes.....it all came under the general heading of "Juggling"

I was surprised when Poi and Staff people began to claim a diffrent title. I heard people saying "It's more of a spinners workshop/event" or "It's more for jugglers"

I guess it come hand in hand with Poi and Staff maturing as disciplines, they have come so far recently. When I started there really wasn't much to learn, no Wibbling or antispin or hyperloops and any contact move made you an acknoledged master

What is the diffrence between jugglers and spinners?

Ps- the title of this thread wasn't meant to indicate that they were in opposition or fighting

Me too.... besides the differences were strongly pointed out by Jugglers who were looking down at spinning as "not being juggling".... the history of EJC's practically prooved that.

Now Jugglers become aware that spinning may grow bigger than juggling and try to get back into the boat....

Do we let them?

i don't think poi and staff were widely accepted by the juggling community until fairly recently.

as such, the spinning community was really left to develop alongside the existing juggling community and has now really begun to come of age with larger and better organised events being run specifically to cater to and for spinners.

most of the jugglers i know are spinners too anyway

i think you can relate the two by the following equation:

spinner = juggler - (aloofattitudebuiltupoverpast15years)


cole. x

(pictures Lord Of The Rings style fight with the evil unwashed and dreadlocked orks brandishing burning chains and sticks beaten back by a hail of juggling clubs and balls)

The jugglers are better trained anyway

Bring on the flames

Contact Juggling with the Palantir?


Drew in his first attempt...

Jugglers are rubbish.....but only because I never understand what they're talking about with there 444433311165989087777437832 and their fountain mess someting or other...yeah...so there.

Seriously though, to be fair we're all pretty much the same.

We all throw/spin/gyrate with small and round or long and thin objects that hit us in the face/nuts/somewhere else painful when it goes wrong.

We all (well most of us) get trollied in feilds/ at conventions etc together and sit around and talk about ourselves doing this.

We all (well a lot of us) also spend a lot of our day talking to like minded people on the internet.

We all (well some of us ) love what we do and the people we've met through it.

We all ( well a select highly nerdy few of us myself not included) waste * cough* I mean productively spend hour upon hour of our lives desperately seeking new forms of style/ composition/ and long words to name things in order to baffle those around us and make ourselves sound more intelligent.






Love you all really!

There are diffrent types of juggler though, you see it at any big convention-

the geeky "numbers" jugglers who all do maths/physics and stand for hours on end in the hall trying to get that elusive 97531 in geeky T-shirts.

the French Artiste type, often in white and fond of contact juggling and diabolo

And the dreadlocked hippy spinners getting mashed outside in the sun.

These stereotypes are obviously not universal- and not meant to offend anyone but I think contain a grain of truth.

I know which I am

The factual difference in itself actually doesnt matter.

You just name it differently.
That way, you create two distinct groups.
Invent vocabulary and rites to foster their identities and deepen the divide.
Blame the other group for being arrogant, snide and generally feeling superior to yours.
Reslish in stories how this other group is doing wrong things wrongly.
Cherish the day of peace as the day things will finally get how they suppose to be (from your perspective).
Exaggerate their provocations.
Blame them for having started the conflict.
Promise your warriers everything from 72 virgins to a 7 bt btb hyperloop.
Write your own history. Blame theirs as lies.
Worship your martyrs.

This has been working since time began ... so it might work for us too

hold on...

i wear white, i studied physics, i like contact, i lived in france, i juggle siteswaps, get mashed, have dreadlocked hippies as friends and spin poi...

AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!

IDENTITY CRISIS!!!!!!


cole. x

Nah cole...you're just personality greedy.

is that just a nice way of suggesting i'm schizophrenic...?

nah, we am only kidding


cole. x

nice way? I thought it was a fairly blunt way actually.

yes, i am all encopmpassing - cower before my swathes of object manipulating multiple personalities




cole. x

*wonders why we always seem obsessed by those things that make us different than those that make us the same...*

I'm pretty happy that Jugglers exist.

Without Jugglers, the Spinners may not have experienced such incredible boost in terms of contact and 3-staff performances, which pretty much happened over the past 3 years. (but without Spinners, the world would be extremely boring... however) I'm happy that there is a fusion between Juggling and Spinning... And certainly when jugglers become a threatened or endangered species I will happily help to build their refuge.

Some clarification is perhaps nescessary

You know you're a geeky numbers juggler when;

(9, 1, 4, 1, 5) means something to you

You like maths and logic puzzels- hat problems are a favorite

You've worked out that (9, 1, 4, 1, 5) is a four ball pattern

You can quote Monty Python's "The Quest for the holy Grail" backwards

You're actually excited about learning (9,1,4,1,5) now that I've mentioned it

You are often seen in a T-shirt with something written on it that only a handful of people understand and you take pride in being one of them.

You've written out (9, 1, 4, 1, 5) and are getting ready to write a post informing me that it's not a possible pattern


Feel free to add to this list or make another list for another type of juggler