#517618 - 25/03/05 10:22 PM
Scared of death?
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 02/01/04
Loc: Hastings
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Ok, so I was thinking about this last night... Are you scared of people you love dying? At the moment my grandad is very ill, and has been transfered to a hospital in Brighton. He was admitted some time last week after my step-gran thought she could no longer look after him (but thats another story  ) He has 10% of his kidneys working, and yet none of this bothers me..at all really  He was quite confused after the transfer, and told my 2 uncles that he didn't know what he had done but they had put him in prison for 2 days. I just laughed at that, because it sounds exactly like something my grandad would say  I've spoken to one of my cousins over msn and she says she been bawling her eyes out, but in reality I can't see what this solves? Ok my grandad is extremely ill, and is probably going to die within the next couple of weeks, he might pull through he might not. Surely the best thing to do without getting to worked up is to look after him and make sure he has the best quality life if/when he does die? Its makes me sound like a bit of a harsh b!tch really I've always been brought up, especially from my dads influence that to be worried about something before it happens solves nothing. We all just need to be happy until the time comes when grandad does die, and when he does I probably will cry loads then, but until then im worrying about how happy and comfortable he is What are your thoguhts? People have different ways of dealing with death, how do you cope with it?
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#517619 - 25/03/05 11:03 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: _Aimée_]
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comfortably numb
Registered: 08/07/04
Loc: The countryside
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I've always been scared of death, and I think I always will be.
Yeah I can be convinced momentarily that it's not as bad as it seems. Some friends have really positive views on it and I like to listen to those positive stories.
But it all comes back down to me being petrified of my Mother, Father, or my two older brothers dying. I used to have really morbid scenarios that went through my head about my parents dying, particulary my Dad. But I can train my way out of those thoughts now. But I don't think I could bare it if my Father died...or my mother...or anyone close to me! My parents are pretty old for parents, most people's parents of my age (17) are in their late 30s-mid40s if that makes sense. I've never known what it's like to have young parents, but I love them just as they are.
My Dad is 61 (looks about 40 though) and my Mum is turning 55 this year (also doesn't look it). So yeah, their deaths cross my mind more then it should. But I've always been a worrier. But they are very healthy, always exercising and looking after themselves.
Another thing is that crosses my mind occasionally is that what will happen to my brother when my parents die? He was born will Cerebral Palsy, he can talk really well, and has a great sense of humour and a huge amount of compassion for the things that happen in our world.... but is wheelchair bound and is handicapped in the hands, he's not capable of dailing on a phone or touch typing on a keyboard.... My other brother is a 4th year medical student who lives away from us, I mean he comes and visits us heaps, but in a few years he'll have completed his study and be going on to work.
I'm currently on my final year of high school, year 12, but there's going to come a time when I'm going to move out and become what I want to become - a disability worker.
I'm not really scared of myself dying, just that I'd feel bad because everyone will be sad. Not that I could literally have the conscience to feel bad but yeah, you know what I mean.
*escapes this convo before she gets too sad*
Sorry, I think I've said too much!
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#517620 - 25/03/05 11:12 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: roarfire]
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Pirate Ninja
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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yeah, i used to spent hours imagining what it would be like if one of my lovedones died. used to work myself into tears.
i also spent a few months thinking about my own death. planned my funeral and everything. thats when i was about 18 and really at the bottom of th barrell.
these days i have no fear of my own death. i could pop off tomorow and the only thing that would worry me is upsetting all the people that care about me.
there are so many people in my life that i absolutley could not bear to lose buy at the sametime my own faith tells me that death is not the end and its very comforting.
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#517621 - 26/03/05 12:56 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: ado-p]
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Skinny poi maker
Registered: 12/02/04
Loc: Moscow, Russia
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I think all the ppl are scared of death of their loved ones. Me too. Sure I am... The thing is, i've learned that the best thing is to enjoy every minute of time that you spend with close ppl. Three of my friends commited suicide (one without an obvious reason), one died in a car accident. All normal healthy ppl. and since then i know - i should love the ppl who are near, be close to them enjoy their company, because noone knows when their (or my) life may end. I feel really sad and crushed, because i cant visit my grangrand mother who lives in israel and is 92 already, because of some reasons. She phones me sometimes and i can hear that she's crying and really is waiting for me... So... I have no more english words to explain my feelings... But. Hold on to your love ones and your friends. Dont forget ab them.  Nothing is forever on this planet...
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#517623 - 26/03/05 03:10 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: spritie]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 22/12/04
Loc: Hampshire College, MA, USA
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:dito: we can only hope it doesn't come to soon for those we love, but if it does, that's just annother part of life. what would life be without death? it would be totally meaningless
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-James
"How do you know if you're happy or sad without a mask? Or angry? Or ready for dessert?"
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#517624 - 26/03/05 05:17 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: JauntyJames]
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HOP Mad Doctor
Registered: 28/05/01
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
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I dread the day that Tina, the housekeeper/nanny who raised me dies.
I just don't want to think about it.
My father and my mother I'll manage without...but Tina... *shakes head*
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"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura
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#517625 - 26/03/05 07:05 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Doc Lightning]
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old hand
Registered: 17/11/04
Loc: San Francisco, California, USA
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I think that I'm more afraid of serious illness than death, both for my loved ones and myself. I have watched family members dealing with the ravages of old age and cancer and watched friends die of AIDS and it's that kind of suffering that I wouldn't want myself or anyone I cared about -- or anyone for that matter -- to go through. Of course grief is hard, but we get through it.
Death itself though I'm not so afraid of. I mean, it can't be avoided for one thing. In a weird way I'm kind of looking forward to it. Not that I'm going to kill myself tomorrow, but for me thinking about death is like thinking about finally getting to bed at the end of a long day, or clocking out at the end of a shift. My time is done, and now I can go home.
So when some goth-chick with an ankh (which is an anagram of my real name, incidentally) shows up, I'll be like 'oh it's time." And that'll be that.
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#517626 - 26/03/05 08:20 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: _khan_]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 22/12/04
Loc: Hampshire College, MA, USA
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so, are you Kahn, Khan, or Hank? i'm rooting for the second one, its a cool name. sorry, sorry  i know
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"How do you know if you're happy or sad without a mask? Or angry? Or ready for dessert?"
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#517627 - 26/03/05 09:03 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: JauntyJames]
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the henna lady
Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
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In an interesting twist, I am not afraid of death for my loved ones. For purely selfish purposes I do not want them to die. I want them here with me, but that is not fear at all. I fear them suffering, or being hurt but not dieing.
I fear death for myself, and only to the extent that I love life so much, I do not want it to end and I know how it would hurt my loved ones and I never want to do that.
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#517628 - 26/03/05 10:24 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Pele]
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Mumma Hen
Registered: 25/04/02
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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I am not afraid of death.. I have been there, done that, and its a surprisingly calming and uplifting situation.. Im afraid of what my death would do to my family becasue we are so close, and I dont even want to think about how arsn would feel... I am so damn selfish that I know if someone I loved dearly like arsn or my family passed I would break.. I would snap becasue I cant imagine my life without them right now. 
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#517629 - 26/03/05 09:53 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Valura]
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coming to a country near you
Registered: 09/03/04
Loc: home of the tiney toothy bear
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i read a story the other day , it goes sort of like the following:
there was a woman whos only son had died. she carried the childs body from house to house begging for medicine to bring the child back to her. when she asked at a mans house he replied "take your child to the Buddha, he will help you". So she journeid to the Buddha and asked for medicine to bring back her son. the Buddha replied "bring me a cup of water from a household where nobody has died". The woman followed his command and started asking housholds if she could have a cup of water and if anyone had died in their house. The women couldn't find household without a death in the family. she returned to the Buddha and told him what had happened, the Buddha replied "do you now understand?", and with that she took her child and buried him.
if anyone doesn't understand he was saying that everyone dies, it must be accepted and seen for what it is, nothing will last forever.
(and dont anyone call me cold, my dads had cancer since i was 12)
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#517632 - 27/03/05 06:47 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: ishkadoodles]
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member
Registered: 13/01/05
Loc: Online!
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My greatest fear would be to look back when im dying and see all the things i should have done. when friends and family die its sad and id cry but id also know that any of them would slap me silly if i just sat around miserable because of it.
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#517633 - 27/03/05 07:01 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Fathom]
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Registered: 02/11/04
Loc: melbourne, victoria, australia
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i'm not scared of my own death, but i hate the thought of losing people close to me, someone very close to me was suicidal a few years ago, and every time the phone rang i'd think it was someone telling me to come identify his body.
on the other hand though, about 7 years ago, my dad had a brain tumour, and i was completely unaffected. it was really strange, and i worry a bit about it now, what would have happened if he did die. i know that denial is a natural stage of grief, but i seemed to just jump straight to acceptance. we were not close at the time, but if he did die, it would have definitely affected me on so many levels.
i work with a lot of people who have been in car accident, and similar situations, and i worry about people i love being hurt in that way.
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#517634 - 27/03/05 10:03 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: myco]
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no excuses. no apologies.
Registered: 04/01/05
Loc: aotearoa
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aimee, i dont think there's anything wrong with the way you are looking at this. i think it is a very wise thing to be able to look at death and acknowledge its inevitably, that all things must change from one state to another, and that there is nothing good or bad about it, and the way you feel about it is not going to influence anything other than your own relation to, and experience of, it.
to me, death is when the being that you are releases its most densest form, the physical body. we continue to exist in a higher vibrational frequency (just as different colours have different frequencies, so do we..), no longer simply attached to events upon this plane.. but more able to transcend what we thought we were (which is all just a collection of all our past experiences, ideals and opinions about everything), and come closer to what we truly are..
um. i feel like i rambled and that it may not make sense.. but here it is anyway.
<hugs>
ps. when i hear that ppl have died, inside i am really pleased for them. they have finished what they incarnated to do, and their passing is also giving other people opportunities to express who they think they are in relation to that event.. its all brilliant, wonderful and perfect, if you ask me. so yay for death! yay for change (death being the highest embodiment of change..(?))! yay for simply BEING..!!!
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#517636 - 28/03/05 07:27 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: myco]
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addict
Registered: 24/03/03
Loc: Ohio, USA
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Its weird... I felt more greif losing my my first girlfriend than I did when my brother died.... that used to bother me a little... but not anymore. I feel death is inevitable, and that it is a both a blessing and a curse, much like life. It can be a beutiful thing, or an ugly thing, but that just depends on how we look at it, like anything else. When my brother died, it hurt to lose him... but on some level I understood and couldn't hurt for too long.
I've never feared death. Its a motivator. Its the companion next to me, constantly reminding me to not waste the time I have. And when it comes, I'll accept my own with the grace and humility that it deserves.
And I don't know if theres an afterlife. In fact, I'd be disapointed if there was. I don't want to exist forever. At the very least, I hope any semblance of "me" disapears upon death, if something IS left over.
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#517638 - 02/04/05 04:27 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: _Aimée_]
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addict
Registered: 26/09/04
Loc: Sunshine Coast
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I have no fear of dying, but of being lonely. I don't want to be left alone. You know how you hear about couples that have such a strong love for one-another, that if one dies, the other will too? Well I hope that is my husband and I. We decided a long time ago not to have children which means that when we grow old, we will just have each other. I hate being apart from him now, and he's just at work!  So yeah, I have a fear of being lonely.
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#517639 - 02/04/05 07:41 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: ~Leah~]
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old hand
Registered: 25/08/04
Loc: Berlin, Germany
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everybody is kind of scared of death, isolation, helplessness.. we all just deal it differently for most of us is it maybe the best way to live as intensely as possible.. as some of you know my mother died a few weeks ago on cancer and I found out the worst part wasnt that she had to go maybe I understand now we all have to no the worst part was for me that I couldnt take away her fear whilst dying I sat next to her bed saw her fear in her face and couldnt take it away we just could sit there and be with her but she had to go alone..
o and Laya I would not want my father go after her, he has still a life even if there was a strong love and I'm sure my mother would not want him to leave for her I dont think that is desirable I would want my loved ones to still have a life and that they enjoy every second after I'm gone..
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#517640 - 03/04/05 06:12 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Mr Majestik]
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enthusiast
Registered: 20/09/04
Loc: Exeter
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Written by: Mr Majestik
i read a story the other day , it goes sort of like the following:
there was a woman whos only son had died. she carried the childs body from house to house begging for medicine to bring the child back to her. when she asked at a mans house he replied "take your child to the Buddha, he will help you". So she journeid to the Buddha and asked for medicine to bring back her son. the Buddha replied "bring me a cup of water from a household where nobody has died". The woman followed his command and started asking housholds if she could have a cup of water and if anyone had died in their house. The women couldn't find household without a death in the family. she returned to the Buddha and told him what had happened, the Buddha replied "do you now understand?", and with that she took her child and buried him.
if anyone doesn't understand he was saying that everyone dies, it must be accepted and seen for what it is, nothing will last forever.
(and dont anyone call me cold, my dads had cancer since i was 12)
I really like that story. Buddhism is a religion i admire. 
When both my grand fathers died i didnt react at all. I kinda just nodded at the fact and accepted it. To other people its infuriating, mostly because of my lack of empathy also (although i cant help that). My family dont like my blunt view on death i dont think. But i understand that its different for them because it was one of their parents. When mine die ill be upset because they are the most important part of my life but i was detached from my grand parents so i can handle it better. But death is everywhere all the time. Im only human, i cant stop it so i wont get upset over it. Saying that though, i still try not to think about it because its not a very nice thing to have in your head.#

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#517641 - 03/04/05 12:58 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Facelessjoker]
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Padawan
Registered: 03/04/05
Loc: Bolton
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I don't like the idea of people close to me dying, but if you know they're terminally ill for a while beforehand you kinda expect it and it's wasier to deal with than if they go suddenly like in a car crash or something.
Dunno if i'm scared of death myself. It's all well and good to say you are but you can't know for certain until you're actually faced with it.
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#517642 - 07/05/05 12:17 AM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: monkeynamedspank]
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Retro Fyre Wizzard
Registered: 19/04/05
Loc: Pietermaritzburg (KZN)
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nope not at all... when it comes it comes... and it will... it's as much a part of life as it is and end to this body.
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#517643 - 07/05/05 08:46 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Shu]
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Hop's Kitten Jester.
Registered: 12/07/04
Loc: Wonderland igloo, Vic, Austral...
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Well...i just found out my dad has leukemia... ontop of this he cant eat...and i dont know how to deal with it. When i was little...hadnt even been born..dad had cancer, he was supposed to die, but when i was born..he just kept living. And dad and i have had our share of problems over the years but, i really do love him. And, hes moved interstate so i dont know how much time i ahve left with him. I havent found a way to deal with it yet...
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#517644 - 07/05/05 10:32 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: Sakura_Moon]
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no excuses. no apologies.
Registered: 04/01/05
Loc: aotearoa
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 sakura  sakura  sending you lots of love and support, sakura.  lots and lots. and lots. im here for ya, sweetie... if ya wanna.
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#517645 - 08/05/05 02:17 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: shen shui]
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Hop's Kitten Jester.
Registered: 12/07/04
Loc: Wonderland igloo, Vic, Austral...
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Thanks Shen...
Aimee.. My grandmother was the same before she died, unwell and unable to enjoy life. When she passed, i didnt cry much because she wasnt herself those last few weeks and it was much kinder to let her go than to try and keep her alive and in pain. Its tough and sometimes you dont know what to feel. Dont feel bad that you're not bawling your eyes out...
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#517647 - 09/05/05 06:35 PM
Re: Scared of death?
[Re: GothFrogette]
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Its a bum with an afro...
Registered: 11/04/05
Loc: Newcastle NSW
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 Yeh im not really worried bout it, when it happens it happens.. but my nanna found out not long ago that she has lung cancer, for a couple weeks she was really sad, but now she is accepting it and getting on with life.... maybe when the time comes for me it'll worry me then..... -not the most happy topic,but try to stay positive 
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