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#927680 - 11/01/11 09:54 AM Poi then music or music then poi
Paddington Bear Offline
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Registered: 19/01/10
okay so im looking at putting a routine together for my first public burn and had an interesting thought. when looking at choreographing do you personally find music and fit the poi to it, or do you put the poi routine together and find music for it or finally do you go in with a number of poi combinations you want to use and use music to string them together?
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#927700 - 11/01/11 01:09 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: Paddington Bear]
SpinnerofDetroit Offline
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
I personally do music that fits what you have a rough vision for, and then build it around that.
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#927705 - 11/01/11 02:54 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
Sister Eleven Offline
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Registered: 03/08/09
Loc: Seattle, WA
Most stuff on choreography I've seen says the dance comes first and should determine the music. I sympathize with this since I think a routine is about making the prop fascinating, and the music is about highlighting the structure of the routine. But personally I don't see any reason you can't start with the music if there's a song that particularly inspires good spinning.
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#927727 - 12/01/11 08:25 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: Sister Eleven]
aston Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
I tend to start with a variety of music, decide roughly what I am going for and then spin to each and see if it works. If it does, I narrow it down a bit more and choose a final song based on what I want to do with the poi.

Of course, part of spinning to each song is blocking out certain sequences that I want to use and seeing how and if they fit in.
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#927795 - 13/01/11 11:51 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: aston]
nico_Baeyens Offline
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Registered: 18/08/10
for me first public burn all i could here was RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR oooooooohhhhh RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *STALL* AAAAAAHHH RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

XD
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#927830 - 14/01/11 11:23 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: nico_Baeyens]
SpinnerofDetroit Offline
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Registered: 25/10/09
Loc: Trenton, MI, USA
Yeah that sounds about right lol
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#927864 - 15/01/11 05:13 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: SpinnerofDetroit]
Dark_Dancer Offline
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Registered: 07/01/11
Music first definitely.
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#932035 - 17/05/11 11:11 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: Dark_Dancer]
discowraps Offline
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Registered: 20/05/10
music then dance and find the tech that fits last

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#932289 - 26/05/11 08:59 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: discowraps]
Teamo Offline
Almost again

Registered: 22/12/09
Loc: Finland
Fully agreed with discowraps. As far as the audience is considered, techy moves have the least importance. Nobody but other spinners are going to appreciate them properly. So moves should come last. And the dance part will work best if you already have a piece of music to plan it out on.

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#935917 - 05/02/12 04:43 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: Teamo]
AmethystRain Offline
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Registered: 05/02/12
Loc: Minnesota United States
I think I would have to agree with a few of the others here: When I was working as a performer at the local Fests out here, I always made sure to pick my music first. Once I had the music I knew I could move around nicely to, then I would choose with one of my toys to use. [:
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#935928 - 06/02/12 09:38 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: AmethystRain]
willworkforfoodjnr Offline
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Registered: 08/08/07
Loc: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
It depends, but generally, while not the first thing I think about, the music is decided early on as it has a huge effect on the feel of the routine and how you move as a character: not something I want to start thinking about late on!
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#936199 - 26/02/12 09:40 AM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: willworkforfoodjnr]
Gary_Cifers Offline
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Registered: 04/07/08
For me it's usually been about finding music that makes me wanna spin... I feel lost when i try spinning without music cause i have no rhythm/beat to go off of

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#936223 - 27/02/12 08:25 PM Re: Poi then music or music then poi [Re: Gary_Cifers]
Tu Wahine Offline
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Registered: 21/02/12
Loc: New Zealand
How about you have a couple beats that you like, create some set movements to them, movements that compllment the music and then use whichever you feel like on the day.
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