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#622036 - 09/09/05 02:38 AM Origins of sayings ****
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Registered: 12/08/04
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A person at work said today "Oh, he's not happy. They've sent him to Coventry"

they meant by that that the person wasn't being talked to by everyone else.

Where did that saying come from?

Why Coventry?

There must be loads of sayings out there.... where do they all come from?

Heres another "Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs"
This means the person is suprised by something someone has told them, such as

Man A : I saw a monkey eating a ferret in the high street today.
ManB : Well I'll got to the foot of our stairs! Did you really?

Where do all these saying come from and just how local are some of them?
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#622037 - 09/09/05 02:50 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Skulduggery]
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brilliant thread!!!!!!!! i love these sorts of things!!!

cant think of any sayings but i know the word posh comes from many years ago when people used to travel by boat.
the more financially endowed people obviously got the best accomadation on board which was the prt side on the way there, and the starboard side on the return journey...

Port Out Starboard Home.....POSH!

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#622038 - 09/09/05 02:59 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: maus]
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About being sent to Coventry: i heard that it doesn't derive from Coventry the place, but from the Covin-tree from which Coventry took it's name. The Covin-tree was an oak which stood in front of the castle in feudal times. The tree was used as the gallows and those to be executed were sent to the covin-tree.

Probably a load of rubbish though
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#622039 - 09/09/05 03:15 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: simian]
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"he let the cat out of the bag"

in medieval times, naughty salesmen would sell a cat (which was quite cheap and easy to come by) and claim it was a pig(ALOT more expensive). someone who revealed the salesman's lie would 'let the cat out of the bag'... .. not alot of people know that.

interesting stuff, nice start skully
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#622040 - 09/09/05 03:40 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: maus]
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Written by: maus


cant think of any sayings but i know the word posh comes from many years ago when people used to travel by boat.
the more financially endowed people obviously got the best accomadation on board which was the prt side on the way there, and the starboard side on the return journey...

Port Out Starboard Home.....POSH!




I knew that! I knew that...

I remember trying to explain it to another HoPper, and got all confuzzled...

But yeah
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#622041 - 09/09/05 04:06 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
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might be a tad but anyways, when was the *why did the chicken cross the road* gag first used??
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#622042 - 09/09/05 05:28 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: doctor_fandango]
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As far as I know, the saying being sent to coventry originates from the british civil war, when they used a large church in coventry as a military prison. Being sent to Coventry just meant being sent to jail.

There's page here about it

I live on the same street of said church (St Johns) and can see it from my balcony

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#622043 - 09/09/05 06:25 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: flid]
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It was more than that. Because the civilians of the town were a different side to the prisioners (Roundheads and Cavaliers). Therefore when they were sent to the prision they locals would refuse to communicate with the prisioners - hence being "Sent to Coventry"
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#622044 - 09/09/05 08:13 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Sir_Sheep]
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Ok then, how about

"Well I'll be blowed"

.... no you smutty people thats not a line from a porn film. Its an expression of suprise.
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#622045 - 09/09/05 08:19 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Skulduggery]
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not sure about i'll be blowed but "blimey" comes from "Blind me"... why you'd want to be blinded i don't know but...
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#622046 - 09/09/05 08:21 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Skittish]
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I think it was "blind me God" originally and it was used as a way of saying that the thing they were seeing wasn't something a good Christian should hence they asked God to blind them.
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#622047 - 09/09/05 08:23 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: doctor_fandango]
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Written by: doctor_fandango


might be a tad but anyways, when was the *why did the chicken cross the road* gag first used??




in roman times, when a bored centurian said "Whyth Doth the Turkeyth-lookalikius croth our newly laden perfectly straight walkandhorseway" (the word road wasnt invented for another 30 years when some roman got board of saying walkandhorseway)
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#622048 - 09/09/05 09:07 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: VampyricAcid]
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and here i was thinking it was the Greeks...
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#622049 - 09/09/05 09:16 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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It was actually the Sumerians. *insert Monty Python soundtrack here*
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#622050 - 09/09/05 09:16 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Rouge Dragon]
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My Nan had a saying for everything. One of her sayings was 'if it rains on the day of your funeral it means you were a good person' and it was raining cats and dogs on her funeral.

'Raining Cats and Dogs' now where does that come from?
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#622051 - 09/09/05 10:03 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Thistle]
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#622052 - 09/09/05 10:48 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: bing!]
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on the theme of flying animals

why isnt "not enough room to swing a cat"?
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#622053 - 09/09/05 10:55 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: VampyricAcid]
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Written by: Vampyricacid


Written by: doctor_fandango


might be a tad but anyways, when was the *why did the chicken cross the road* gag first used??




in roman times, when a bored centurian said "Whyth Doth the Turkeyth-lookalikius croth our newly laden perfectly straight walkandhorseway" (the word road wasnt invented for another 30 years when some roman got board of saying walkandhorseway)




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#622054 - 09/09/05 11:12 AM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: Superman]
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Foot of our stairs thing is a northern saying. We all know how weird northerners are
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#622055 - 09/09/05 06:20 PM Re: Origins of sayings [Re: [noodles]]
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Swing a cat. Cat is short for cat-o-nine-tails, throughly unpleasent hooked whip thing. I think the having no room had something to do with slave ships.

Carrots. Vitamin A will help with night vision but not really all that much when you've got a decent diet. The see in the dark thing was from propoganda during WWII. Allied pilots had an uncanny ability to hit targets in the dark, to make people grow/eat their own vegitables there were propoganda posters around crediting it to carrots. It was actually because they had newly invert radar in teh nosecones of the planes.

Different kettle of fish. I have a feeling that kettle is an old word for bucket, anyone got any light on this?
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