#652534 - 02/11/05 05:56 AM
Legal name changes
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Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
Registered: 03/07/05
Loc: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr
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Ok so what makes people legally change their name? I'm not talking about getting married here, I mean by deed poll. I've recently learned that my eldest sister Natalie has done this, and now calls herself Sabrina, and I'm really P***ed off about it. As a mum I carefully chose my daughter's names. They are pretty, and they can live with them (unlike tigerlilly and apple and egbert  ) I'd be so hurt if one of my kids changed their name to something else, so If I feel like this, I know my Mum is hurt about it. Unless you're on a WP (witness protection) program or are hiding from evil ex's, changing you're name because you're bored of it is the stupidest thing I've ever heard! My ex's Sister did this too, but her name was Sylvia and she changed it to Samantha (I cant really blame her though) I'm very shocked about the whole thing, I'd never change my name, even though people pronounce it wrong. I mean that is what pet names are for - thats why I like people calling me Tammie not Tamara (dont get me started on how to pronounce it my way - just replace the C in camera to a T and there you go!) The bottom line is that it was the ultimate insult to my mother, there was no need for her to do it at all.  Ok so now I need to go and chill out - let me know your views on the subject! All the Best Tammie 
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#652535 - 02/11/05 06:09 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: TinklePants]
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Insert Champagne Here
Registered: 21/07/03
Loc: without class distinction
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I agree that it's an insult to the parents. I don't understand it. On saying that, I have a friend who wants to change his SURNAME because he has issues with his father and doesn't want to be associated with him. But first names I think you need more reason than simply "oh, I don't like it". Except maybe the kid I heard was named firstname wayne carey surname, after a footballer who was god-like at the time. THATS just humiliating. But with football obsess parents like that he'll probably grow o love it and think he's awesome for having that name.
then you get the people who change their names to weird stuff, like a lady i read about who changed her name to Obiwan Kenobi.
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#652536 - 02/11/05 06:22 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Rouge Dragon]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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i don't see much difference between using a pet/shortened version of your birth name and going for a complete name change.
example: ted is about as far from edward as it gets yet people are happy to replace one with the other, even though the short version is nothing like the given name.
i think choosing what you prefer to be called is best for an individual - if you are not happy with your name, change it.
unless the reasoning behind it was to hurt your mum, i don't see how it can be regarded as "the ultimate insult"...
personally, if had kids and they decided to change their names when they became adults, i'd like to have a talk about how they came to that decision, but unless their only reason was "to piss you off dad", i would never try to persuede them not to do it.
incidentally, is this not one of very, very few posts that you've signed off under your real name miss 'tinklepants'... 
cole. x
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#652537 - 02/11/05 06:44 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: coleman]
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had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
Registered: 27/01/05
Loc: Edinburgh
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I don't know why it's an insult to a parent when someone doesn't like their name. I know lots of people who tend to use another of their first names, but not everyone is so lucky. If you go for a completely different pet name, you'll have to explain for the rest of your life why your work email address isn't actually the name you use, etc, and you confuse people a lot.
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#652539 - 02/11/05 07:12 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: spritie]
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
Registered: 04/08/04
Loc: Staines
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i want to change my surname, but it would be like the third time its been changed
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#652541 - 02/11/05 08:41 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: TinklePants]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 28/08/02
Loc: sheffield
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Written by: TinklePants
Ok so what makes people legally change their name?
I'm not talking about getting married here, I mean by deed poll.
I've recently learned that my eldest sister Natalie has done this, and now calls herself Sabrina, and I'm really P***ed off about it.
As a mum I carefully chose my daughter's names. They are pretty, and they can live with them (unlike tigerlilly and apple and egbert )
I'd be so hurt if one of my kids changed their name to something else, so If I feel like this, I know my Mum is hurt about it.....................................
................The bottom line is that it was the ultimate insult to my mother, there was no need for her to do it at all.
Have you asked your sister why she changed her name? Maybe she had a really good reason.
Personally, I don't think a parent has any right to get annoyed if their children change their name- they're basically independant individuals who have a legal right to do so.
I certainly don't think it's anywhere near the ultimate insult to one's mother.
If I give my child a certain name, then obviosly I will put a lot of thought into it, and try to get an appropriate choice. But, if years down the line, he/she opts to change it; I'd she that as their right.
Families are strange, they get pushed apart by the strangest things
I se it in my own, with long-standing wars over who got 'grannies ring' etc.
I think with families, an effort has to be made to see each others perspective, and not see offence where there was none intended.
As my parents son, I live my life the way I want to- it happens that I don't want to change my name, but, if I did, I'd do it, and I'd do so for my own reasons, and I wouldn't be taking much notice of anyone who had a problem with it (though I would first expain my reasoning to my parents).
I'm a adult, it's my name.
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#652543 - 02/11/05 10:26 PM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: alien_oddity]
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Macaque of all trades
Registered: 27/04/05
Loc: wombling free...
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Tizzy... you know you LOVE that name Tam, perhaps your sister is trying to re-invent herself. I would not change my name nor can I really shorten it. Did Natalie ever get any name calling? does her birth-name have any bad memories? If she's bored then that's her issue it is in actuallity her name. the single most important thing in you life you have no Original choice over. Maybe she is trying to express her independance
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#652544 - 02/11/05 10:56 PM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Mynci]
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fluffy mess
Registered: 08/04/05
Loc: Brighton
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My father changed his middle name years ago from Frederick (which was his fathers name) to David (as in the David and Goliath story from the bible) He did not do this to disrespect his birth father, but because the name david means something special to him...I woud not dream to argue with his choice.
There is also someone I work with who changed his first name to a single letter..this dudes name is E..thats it..I havent asked him why,but I guess its different strokes for different folks.. everyone calles him by his surname anyway.
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#652546 - 03/11/05 12:14 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: squarexbear]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 02/01/04
Loc: Hastings
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Written by: squarexbear
I've considered changing my name in the past, simply so that i could introduce myself without 'hurhurhurhur wheres hardy?' etc. very funny, entirely original, not boring at all.
Loz, I've never thought of that before, sorry 
I've never thought of changing my name. Aimée isn't weird or wacky, but the spelling is ish
I think its all down to personal choice..
I have a foster cousin whose parents both had special needs, and great fans of the flintstones..they named him Wilmur..
My Aunty is in the process of adopting him/changing his name. For a 7 year old boy (who also happens to have special needs) Wilmur is most difinatly not 'him'
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#652547 - 03/11/05 01:07 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: onewheeldave]
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Didger-marie-doo-ist
Registered: 23/08/05
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Written by: onewheeldave
Have you asked your sister why she changed her name? Maybe she had a really good reason.
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She couldn't give me a good reason! (all she said was "I dunno") her old first name is now her middle name and her new last name is the same as her current bf. (copy cat )
The problem she has is that everyone she knew growing up are still going to call her Natalie out of habbit. I still call her Natalie and she has never corrected me so I keep doing it!
At the end of the day it is her life, her name, etc but she can't MAKE people change what they KNOW her as!
(sorry for rambeling, womens problems )
Edited by LilMissSmartyPants (03/11/05 01:35 AM)
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#652548 - 03/11/05 01:23 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: LMSP]
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veteran
Registered: 10/01/05
Loc: Melbourne
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my name is april claire, until i was 18 i was known to everyone as claire. i had always hated the name (i remember being about 5 and asking if i could change my name). i wanted to change it but never really had the chance (because of all friends etc always calling me claire) then when i was 17 i moved 2000kms away from where i grew up and met a whole new group of people, and basically started to find out who the real me was, and i decided i most definately was not a claire. so i asked everyone to start calling me april. the single best decision i have ever made. my dad was upset because he really liked the name claire, but understood my reasons, and my mum was over the moon because she had always liked april much more.
i think the reason for calling me april claire and then using claire was that i was due in april, but i was actually born in may so they thought it was strange to be called april if i wasnt born then. *shrug* either way...
but yeah, can completely understand wanting to change your name. if she felt the need and went with it and is now happy -good on her.
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#652549 - 03/11/05 02:01 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Phaerie]
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NYC
Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
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I believe a daughter is the property of her parents until she gets married and becomes the property of her husband and her name should reflect that fact.
Oh no wait... I totally don't.
-Mike
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#652552 - 03/11/05 02:20 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Dr_Molly]
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Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Registered: 12/08/04
Loc: Wales
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My sister couldn't come up with any names that she and the childrens father could agree on. I offered up a few and they got picked. If either of my Nieces wanted to change their names I wouldn't be offended that they wanted to. I often have said that you shouldn't have to name kids until they are about 6. By that time you can usually tell what their name should be.
I have a middle name I really don't like. I've never bothered to change it because its not really ever used so it doesn't matter to me.
My brother on the other hand was called by his first name all his childhood and now he chooses to use his middle name. Its kind of odd because when I talk about him as a child I call him by his first name but when I talk about him now I call him by his seconds. Its almost as if in my head they are to separate people.
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#652553 - 03/11/05 02:33 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Skulduggery]
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Scientist of Fortune
Registered: 15/04/05
Loc: Edinburgh
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Jeff is actually just a nickname most people call me by. I wouldn't go through all the trouble of a deed pole but I do prefer it to my real name.
G.
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#652554 - 03/11/05 02:35 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Skulduggery]
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veteran
Registered: 10/01/05
Loc: Melbourne
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yeah same thing happens with me, when friends and family talk about me as a child im claire, and if its about something recent in april.
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#652558 - 03/11/05 04:58 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Skulduggery]
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....of doom!
Registered: 17/04/05
Loc: Hastings, UK
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Written by: Skulduggery
I often have said that you shouldn't have to name kids until they are about 6. By that time you can usually tell what their name should be.
yep.
sadly, 1, 2 and 3 are seen to be unsuitable names for kids 
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#652560 - 03/11/05 09:43 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Sethis]
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april fool
Registered: 14/11/03
Loc: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Friends of mine have just had a child and named him "Guiness",
after the beer.
I wonder how their 2nd child is going to be called....
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#652561 - 03/11/05 10:19 AM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Carobananas]
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Are you up for it??
Registered: 08/12/04
Loc: Auckland
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friend of mine - 1 child is called "Justice" & does antone remember the old chrysler cars? yes her next child is called "chrysler"
She reckons she won't mind if they change their names when they are old enough.
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#652563 - 03/11/05 02:08 PM
Re: Legal name changes
[Re: Carobananas]
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Registered: 03/03/05
Loc: Bali
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Written by: Carobananas
Friends of mine have just had a child and named him "Guiness",
after the beer.
I wonder how their 2nd child is going to be called....
You MUST read this wonderful poem about a Bush Christening !
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