Is there a place where the best of the best go?

I'm curious, of course, cause I want to be one of them. Even if I weren't good enough, I think I would learn a lot from just watching them spin. It kind of sucks to live in california though, I havent seen anyone better then me yet, the ones that were I've surpassed and the ones that are out there I haven't met yet. I spin at raves to get out there and do what I have grown to love but I just want to have my mind blown for once. I think I desearve to watch someone and feel like a little kid in aww.

Eric

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If a nuclear bomb went off, we'de all be giant glowstix, think about it, spinning with your two best friends would have a whole new meaning.

When you are good enough, the answer will come to you. The answer is known by every twirler, but it takes a master to recognise it for what it is.

Josh

geeeeeeee, thanks josh. That was touching. I don't really feel like playing grasshopper right now, it was a serious question. you're basically saying, "when you build it, they will come". It's dumb, Im asking about a convention or something, you know, where tons of good people go. If you're taking this the wrong way and thinking I'm saying some people suck at poi, don't. I just want to see the ones who practice all the time, not the ones who just pick them up at a rave for attention, and never play around at home.

Eric

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If a nuclear bomb went off, we'de all be giant glowstix, think about it, spinning with your two best friends would have a whole new meaning.

hey mist..."only the warrior that hears the call, will know when to leave, where to go."

hee hee couldnt resist.

I feel ya on this topic. All of my friends that got me into it have pretty much quit, mainly because they dont like for me to break them off. I just picked up so easily, and i have incorporated it into my life. They got bored when they couldnt advance.

Now even when i go to raves, (trying very hard to be modest) i am alwayseither the best, or the next best out of the people that are spinning there. Then i watch them and mimic them and usually leave with a few new moves and combos.

There should be a POI mecca on every continent that every one could go to once a year. We can call it POI-STOCK.

Hey stranger things have happened..
Super

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"Only the warrior that hears the call will know when to leave, Where to go" -unknown

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams"- Willy Wonka

Hey SUP...

Thats just what Im talking about. I've already advanced past my mentors now I want to be put in my place. Everything came easy to me as well. The only things I really worked on is the 5 beat weave and btb weave. Now Im doing wraps btb in and out of the btb weave, working on the 5 beat weave btb, and every wrap I'v ever thought of Iv done. Other people think differently then I do so maybe they have a wrap or move I'v never seen and thats why I was wondering. That Mecca idea is great though.

Eric

Hope you had a great time getting married

Josh and Superman, you forgot the other adage:

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear
(sorry eric, couldn't resist)
ade

[This message has been edited by Ade (edited 29 June 2001).]

Uggh

Myst & Sup - you make me sick!

With envy that is. I've been doing poi for nearly a year, and nothing comes easy. I've been trying to figure out moves from checking out this site and I haven't got btb or 5 beat moves down.

I would guess NZ or Thailand are the places that would have the nearest approximation to a poi convention

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"London is a city coming down from its trip and there's going to be a lot of refugees"
- Danny,Withnail & I

Hey, I understand your frustration. Even though I'm in "fire central", there's very few people playing torches. It can be hard to keep going and striving if you don't feel like you're being inspired and challenged by what you see people do.

I would advise you, if I were to advise you , to turn inward and find where your ambitions are. When I did that I decided I wanted to learn bunches of Snakes and was really satisfied with my work. You have to learn to kick your own ass and not be complacent.

If you're looking for a "convention" relatively near you, try Burning Man. If you're really all that you probably won't be happy until you go to Oz or NZ or Thailand or islands of the South Pacific.

Diana

Kat...I feel your pain. I've only been doing it for six months and it feels like i can do Everything! but those two moves (btb weave, 5 beat weave!) it just dosen't click! hehe, just thought i'd show some sympathy for a fellow twirler!

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My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master!

Hey I'm having the same sorta problem with the fire staff as myst and suerman. I've surpassed everyone else I know and coming from perth I just don't where to find anyone else that swings or twirls

Karl

beat the lamest town in Wisconsin!

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My World is a world of one, and in being one they Rave! My World is a Godly World and I am its master!

Myst - Sounds like you are straight badass at twirling. What gets me, though, is that you mentioned the whole rave thing. What do you spin there? Just glowsticks on strings? If so, how the hell can you manage to do everything your describing w/ those things? I personally have noticed as I've gotten better that the light-weight of the glowsticks is nearly impossible to contain when doing more complicated routines and that, because of that, I'm about twice as good w/ poi. If you have a secret then *please* let me know 'cause I got into the whole thing because of glowsticks and even though I've improved tons I can't really even show off at raves because I try to do all of the moves I can do 1,000 times over w/ poi and end up looking like a beginner 'cause the weight trips me up.

Hey there everyone. I"m new to this forum, but my eye was caught by the Poi convention idea. I'm still learning at the moment and having worked through all the advanced moves of another Poi site, I am about halfway through this one here.
I love twirling! Man! I'ma progressive dancer and dance for raves here in South Africa. I will _definitely_ be incorporating Poi into my routines. It kicks ass.
It has come so easily to me and I dead set on learning those 5 beats you were describing.

Hey Lamar...

I dont know how you were trying to come across, but your first sentence to me wasnt appropriate.

True there are moves that are easier to do with real POI, but they arent impossible to do with sticks. I learned 90% of what i know with sticks. I now prefer Pratice POI because of the weight.

Shit, Jimmy Hendrix played left handed on a right handed Guitar his entire career. people in China use chop sticks. I would argue that a fork is easier, but my friend Leing can eat soup with a damn set of chop sticks. So why knock them?

Kat: The parts that came easy to me, which i am sure this is pretty much the same case with Myst, were the building blocks. Weaves, CS, Butterlflys and so on...It seems that now after 10 months, i am having a harder time than when i begun. Probably when i first started i practiced 3 hrs a day +..now its more like 8 hrs a week. And even then its not really practicing, its just spinning for the joy of it.

i have a friend that has been spinning for about 5 months...and, well...his heart is in it, so i cant knock him. Some people can pick up on things faster and easier than others. I still cant do photon lights very well, but my brother, after about 2 months goes off. He can hang with people that have been doing it for much longer..

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"Only the warrior that hears the call will know when to leave, Where to go" -unknown

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams"- Willy Wonka

Hey i started maybe 2 years ago and i got to a certain point and stoped practicing at home (big mistake) i was once that guy better then my friends now they have all passed my by leaps and bounds my advice keep trying and dont give up at all hehe its a b*tch to catch back up

Where should you go for some world-class poi skill? Right here, Baltimore, MD, USA, poi capital of the world!

Just kidding.

Yeah I know how you feel in some ways; I was the only person in this city spinning for a while and though many of my close friends learned very quickly (discouragingly quickly, in some ways! ) I felt like I was in my own league and badly needed some external encouragement. Well I got it, all right, at both yKaterina's east coast spin party and also when I went to the east coast beach burn at Assateague Island National Seashore (related to Burningman..a smaller regional event) I saw some very impressive stuff.

If there's an upcoming event or convention in your area, go! If not, host one!

-protie

Superman:

In what context did you take my post? I just reread it twice and I don't see anything that stands out as being rude or insulting. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said it sounds like he is straight badass at twirling... and I don't see how someone saying your badass at twirling can be offensive so please clarify what you felt was misplaced.

I'm just like you, I also learned 90% of my moves with sticks and I prefer practice poi as well because with the poi I can do them nearly 100% of the time. But, like Myst, I love to spin at raves... so I was hoping he might have suggestions that would help me to improve with sticks.

Sup Lamar, do you by any chance try to spin sticks in the same manner that you use with your practice poi? There are just as many or more tricks that I can pull off with glowsticks due to their light weight and smaller diameter. Try getting used to the different speed and technique of maneuvering your strings when using your glow and things should open up quickly.

Well, lamar, I also took affence to your comment, kind of a calling out. I think if you took more time playing with your poi instead of getting your panties in a bunch about what I can do with my sticks, you might be able to do them too. The truth is, all I spin is stix. I have no problem with the weight of them cause its all I know. maybe one day I can be as good as you with poi. how do you like sarcastic tones. I picked it all up fairly quick cause I worked my ass off to be better then everyone I saw. pardon me for getting defensive but I desearve a little respect for only spinning since march 2001 and learning all Iv learned. If I threaten you in any way Im sorry, if you are too busy thinking, they're all giving him attention and not me, then stop. go outside and spin your strings, you'll get more respect on this board that way then if you just complain about me knowing a "secret" you don't. well if you want my "secret" ill tell you, are you ready? PRACTICE, yes thats it, PRACTICE. it's as simple as that. Now go spread the word.

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If a nuclear bomb went off, we'de all be giant glowstix, think about it, spinning with your two best friends would have a whole new meaning.

Myst--

I don't see what's so horrible about someone giving you a compliment. All I could see in Lamar's post was him complimenting your abilities, and asking if you had any advice or tips to give.

I don't see what could be rude or inappropriate about that. And I do see that getting on his case for it is pretty much shooting down the whole point of a twirling bulletin board. I mean, what else are we here for, if not to talk to each other about spinning (and even give each other compliments from time to time)?

I think you may have been reading some kind of "sarcastic tone" into Lamar's post that I don't think was intended at all. I think he honestly meant that he thought you were a really skilled twirler.

"If I threaten you in any way I'm sorry"? I don't see where you're getting that from Lamar's words at all. Have you considered that maybe he's just trying to be nice?