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#705114 - 23/02/06 11:54 PM Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens.
DrBoo Offline
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Registered: 10/10/05
Loc: Cornwall
So. It was yesterday. I park my car on a hill in a housing estate to go and visit a client.

I turn back to the car to get some notes from my car and see that it is beginning to roll.... I grab my keys and, using the remote locking, try to get in the door. My remote locking doesn't work and the car picks up speed. I am pulling at the door handle, and trying to slow the car down...at the bottom of the hill children are playing in the road and there is a row of houses - my car is heading straight for all of them.
It picks up more speed. No way can I stop it now.
I start yelling for help, a guy washing his car joins me chasing mine.

Incredibly, the kids move out of the way and the car comes to rest on a kerb at the bottom of the hill - not in someone's front room.
I am barely scathed - just very very shaken - although I had to hospital last night as we thought I'd broken my finger - but it's just a bit ripped and bruised (although I think I may have done some internal damage to it, maybe the top got dislocated? Whatever, it hurts like Hell. I need it to be more serious than a bruise! And it's making typing a little slow ).

So my question/basis for this thread is this - worse case scenarios. What should I have done when the worse happened?
OK - in this case it's pretty obvious - pull the handbrake tighter (I blame my bloke for stretching the cable), point my tyres to the kerb, put it in gear, and not chased after my car like a loon.

But what of other near misses? What should you do, or what did you do?
Anyone got some survival advice that could help us in an emergency?


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#705115 - 24/02/06 12:39 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: DrBoo]
alien_oddity Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/12/04
Loc: in the trees
there's not a great deal you can do if a vehicle starts rolling down a hill unfortunatly

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#705116 - 24/02/06 12:40 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: DrBoo]
Gnor Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
Amazing..I just went through with my kids what to do when they are in a car that starts rolling. It happened to me as a kid and the car just got a dinged door..and one spooked kid. Lucky I knew about handbrakes.

Youve learnt from this....best teacher is life.

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#705117 - 24/02/06 01:01 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Gnor]
[noodles] Offline
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Registered: 31/07/05
Loc: Locked In Pigeons Chimney
Yeah my friend learnt to always leave the car in gear if parked on a hill the hard way too.
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#705118 - 24/02/06 01:30 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: [noodles]]
Mr_Chutney Offline
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
When I was little (4 or 5 I think) my mum parked outside our house in a cul de sac and quickly popped inside to get something she'd forgotten. Being the inquisitive type, I found a lever with a button on it quite interesting, and moments later the car was gently gliding down the road.

It was too slow to really go anywhere, but it certainly suprsed my mother who had to walk alongside the car and put the handbrake back on.

Sorry, it was sort of topical

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#705119 - 24/02/06 01:39 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Mr_Chutney]
ducky2108 Offline
A little bit of a board whore

Registered: 18/12/05
Loc: Glasgow
I always leave my car in gear when I'm parked, as it reduces the risk of roll. Not sure how well it would work on a steep hill but I still do it.

I suppose you could also try pointing the wheels towards or away from the kerb, but you'd have to make sure the steering lock kicks in, as otherwise I'd expect it to just straighten out when it starts to roll.

Far easier to just keep it in gear in my eyes. It does annoy the boyfriend though when he gets in to drive and it jumps cos he's not realised it in gear.
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#705120 - 24/02/06 01:48 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: ducky2108]
Sym Offline
Geek-enviro-hippy priest

Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Diss, Norfolk
as a form of prevention keep it in gear would work, but if you've not done that you're going to have to think of something fast...

tryin to get in the car may or may not be a good idea - if you're on a busy street then it might get hit whilst you're trying to get in or you're in, and that would be very bad for you (and the other person, but they would have hit the car if you were in it or not). I guess trying to alert people by flagging down cars etc would be the best thing.

if you do get in the car, the chances of both break systems failing are low, so just use them. you could also use the gears to slow it down - putting it in a high gear will force the engine to turn and slow it down - think of push starting a car, it's always harder when it's in gear.

Either way, it's all very bad, and you'd have to think quickly to do anything.

I'm glad you're more or less ok - it could have gone so wrong :S

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#705121 - 24/02/06 02:09 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Sym]
Igirisujin Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 10/07/05
Loc: Preston
Oh the same thing happend to me we used to live on a farm and my mum parked the car (heap of junk that it was) and got out to move the wheely bin, the handbrake failed and rolled straight for her and hit her, I had to go get my dad because i didnt know which pedal was the brake. Then I got blamed for it, mum decided the car couldnt have been at fault I must have been jumpig up and down in the back seat
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#705122 - 24/02/06 05:42 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Igirisujin]
DrBoo Offline
I invented the decaffinated coffee table.

Registered: 10/10/05
Loc: Cornwall
OK then.
If we're all agreed that you should always park your car in gear and point the wheels to the kerb - just in case - and don't chase the car like I did. I was lucky only to mess up my finger, if I'd have tripped I could have gone under the wheels.

What about how to cope with all the other dramatic things that could go wrong?

Anyone know how to get out of a sinking car? What to do when your car is hanging over the edge of a cliff? What if the brakes fail, what should you do? If you're driving on ice and start to spin, do you turn into or away from the spin?

Not that I'm paranoid about cars now (although my clutch cable snapped while I was overtaking on a nasty stretch of road last year, so my latest experiences are making me somewhat dubious about their safety)....
if you know any other life or limb saving tips, let's hear them! :D
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#705123 - 24/02/06 05:47 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: DrBoo]
GeoffonTour04 Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 30/11/05
Loc: Oxford
Stay calm

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#705124 - 24/02/06 06:11 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: GeoffonTour04]
Igirisujin Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 10/07/05
Loc: Preston
Use busses , allthough if you spin for whatever reason you turn into it and pump your brakes instead of slamming on them.
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#705125 - 24/02/06 06:34 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Igirisujin]
ducky2108 Offline
A little bit of a board whore

Registered: 18/12/05
Loc: Glasgow
If you're stuck in a sinking car, you have to wait whilst the car fills up with water. Then, the pressure inside and out is equalised, and you should be able to open the door. Take your seat belt off as soon as possible. It may be necessary to break a window to get out, but again, wait til the car has filled with water (you may need to hold your breath)

Teetering on the edge of a cliff, well, you have to get out of the car. Ideally, you should try and get into the back of the car before you get out, as this way you'll put more weight over the bit over the cliff. This will not work if you have reversed over the cliff, in which case you should probably get out at the front.

On ice, when in a skid, you should steer into the skid, but not too much. By steering into the skid, you regain control of the car. However, you must be aware that just because you are in control, it doesn't mean that the car is pointing in the direction you want it to be going. Also, if skidding, you shouldn't break. try and use engine breaking to slow you down.

Please note, these are just my tips. These are in no way endorsed by anyone. Two on the three, I haven't even tested. The other one saved my life, but wrote off my car.
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#705126 - 24/02/06 06:50 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Igirisujin]
Mr_Chutney Offline
Tosser

Registered: 18/04/03
Loc: Herefordshire
If brakes fail: don't panic- you can significantly slow the car down using the gears (downshifting at high revs), and once slow enough, the handbrake can be applied to stop the car on a hard should. Also, you should pump the brakes to see if you can get any power back.

If you get a blow out: usually the car will make a lurch as a tyre gives out and the temptation is to steer quickly and dramatically in the opposite dirction, often leading to a high speed spin or movement into another lane which is extremely dangerous. Instead, keep the steering straight and move to the hard shoulder as quickly as is safely possible, then stop and assess the damage.

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#705127 - 24/02/06 07:16 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: Mr_Chutney]
pricklyleaf Offline
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Registered: 07/03/05
Loc: Manchester
ooo, now I'm wondering what death defying stunt you pulled off in you car ducky, I'm guessing one was the ice, but what is the other one?

I used to have a recurring dream of my car brakes failing, in various situations. They always terrified me and left me feeling a bit rubbish the next day.

Eventually I found out that if your car brakes fail, there are quite a few things that you can do.

As said above you can use the gears, and pump the brakes. This would be the first thing you try, and is preferble to the more extreme options below.

I also heard, that in an absolute emergency, if there is a sturdy fence (the king they have on motorways) running alongside the road (preferbly the one in the hard sholder if its a motorway), then you can cautiously skim the side of the fence to slow you down. It does however ruin the side of your car, and is very risky, but if its that or hitting a wall, Iknow which one I'd choose.

You can also try to find a vehicle bigger than yours, who is currently travelling at about the same speed as you and drive into the back of them. They can then use their brakes to slow the both of you down. Obviously they need to know what you are about to do for this to work. And the vehicle can't be so big, eg. a lorry, that you end up going underneath them.

If nothing else works, and you are about to go off a cliff, then just hit something, like a tree. If theres no one in the passenger side, then try and hit it towards, but not compleatly on that side.

These could be completely wrong things to do, they're just what I read, but at least its put my nightmares to rest for now.
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#705128 - 24/02/06 07:58 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: pricklyleaf]
Patriarch917 Offline
I make my own people.

Registered: 02/10/05
Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
Regarding the situation where your parking brake fails and your car is rolling down a hill, another option is trying to find something to throw under a wheel to make the car stop moving.

Is it worth throwing one of the kids under a wheel to save the rest? I'll leave that question up to someone else.

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#705129 - 24/02/06 10:43 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: ducky2108]
alien_oddity Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/12/04
Loc: in the trees
Written by: ducky2108


If you're stuck in a sinking car, you have to wait whilst the car fills up with water. Then, the pressure inside and out is equalised, and you should be able to open the door. Take your seat belt off as soon as possible. It may be necessary to break a window to get out, but again, wait til the car has filled with water (you may need to hold your breath)






winding the window down helps too

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#705130 - 24/02/06 11:16 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: alien_oddity]
ducky2108 Offline
A little bit of a board whore

Registered: 18/12/05
Loc: Glasgow
For some reason, I don't think you can wind down the window. I have no idea why though.
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#705131 - 24/02/06 11:35 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: ducky2108]
alien_oddity Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/12/04
Loc: in the trees
not even if it's not electric?




(sorry i have been....er.........hearbalising )

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#705132 - 24/02/06 11:44 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: alien_oddity]
misscorinthian Offline
old hand

Registered: 27/09/05
Loc: Bristol
Ahem- accordint to "extreme survival" you need to open the window as soon as you enter the water, as this is your best chance of escape. Otherwise, do what ducky said. You are also advised to drive with your windows and doors slightly open when driving near water or on ice. Apparently.

I actually have a little book on how to survive disasters like that. I thought it looked interesting but it was boring as hell I never got far with it. I expect I shall regret that. Ah well.....
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#705133 - 24/02/06 11:54 AM Re: Handbrake failure Or what to do when the worse happens. [Re: misscorinthian]
alien_oddity Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/12/04
Loc: in the trees
the hardest thing to deal with when "ditching" a car is thermal shock, it will spin you out BIG time, it's advisable to stay as calm and think rationaly as possible

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