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#325847 - 27/04/04 04:31 AM Does any one know of any firebreathing competition
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
I have been Fire Breathing in Texas for three years. I have freinds who go to burningman and firedance and they seem to be of the opinion that I might be one of the best firebreathers on the south coast posisbly on a national level. I was wondering if any one knows of a competition so that I may have the chance to put this theory of there's to a test.

Have you seen the new yahoo comercial with the fire eater of 6 years who does Fire Breathing for the commercial. If your going to claim to be a professional at least use the right terminolgy for what your doing sheesh. She appears to me to still be very affraid of Fire Breathing. sorry my recent rant .

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#325848 - 27/04/04 06:13 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competition [Re: Puck Dallas]
musashii Offline
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Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
put it to rest, man..You hear of sword swallowing competitions? Light bulb eating competitions? Compete compete compete..everyone _has_ to be the best at something
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#325849 - 27/04/04 06:19 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competition [Re: musashii]
arsn Offline
How do you change this thing???

Registered: 07/03/02
Loc: Behind the couch...
I'm the best "Wearer of Underpants on my head" and there ain't nobody going to take my title away from me... well maybe dentrassi...

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Originally posted by Puck Dallas
She appears to me to still be very affraid of fire breathing.




You lose fear of the fire... you get lazy...
You get lazy... you make mistakes...
You make mistakes with Fire Breathing... you die... don't be lazy...

With that comment of yours of her being affraid of fire, it makes me think you have no respect for the flame, and/or fuel... READ THIS...
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#325850 - 27/04/04 07:38 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: arsn]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
I am not normaly the competive type a freind recomended me to ask so sorry you have to be so shitty about it and have a bad attitude. As for the yahoo deal there is a large diff. between fear and respect. I completely respect it. But most firebreathers know better than to ever turn away from there animal. It is a worse situation to turn away than to just stop spraying. Try doing a 360 or a 180 horizontal sustain and you find out how possible it is to make turning away dangerous when you watch it follow you. The fire stops when you stop spraying fluid not when you turn away. That has a higher probablity for an accident to happen. Ask some one in the know and they will most likely agree. Fear isn't the important part of playing with fire respect is.

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#325851 - 27/04/04 07:52 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competition [Re: Puck Dallas]
ataxia Offline
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Registered: 31/03/04
Loc: Melbourne
I don't know much about Fire Breathing, however to me a competition seems like a pretty silly concept. How far will you push yourself?
Competition will push people beyond their limit, and that's surely gotta be dangerous.
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#325852 - 27/04/04 07:59 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competition [Re: arsn]
musashii Offline
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Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
/* runs in, snatches the underpants off arsn's head */

"No one can beat the Worlds best head underpant snatcher!!"

/* runs away */

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#325853 - 27/04/04 08:02 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competition [Re: arsn]
Dentrassi Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane
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I'm the best "Wearer of Underpants on my head" and there ain't nobody going to take my title away from me... well maybe dentrassi...






grrrr! *shakes fist* anyway, you only won that last world championship title because you took steroids! cheating bastard...*grumble grumble*
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#325854 - 27/04/04 08:06 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: ataxia]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
On one level I agree with you. Honestly the only challenge a good fire performer needs is themself. It is also nice though to be able to see styles of other people at your ...level for lack of better words right now. It doesn't make it any better just different. It also helps others to progress being able to see example of the art form in its true use. For the past 2 years I have watched others emulate the tricks I have developed. I would just like to be able to make freinds and have a freindly competition. Hell look at x games. They aren't all shitty with one another. Most of them become freinds. I run into a large number of people who really have the wrong attitude about playing with fire. I have to admit it is fun to watch them be shitty at first until they see what someone has to offer and then all the sudden they want to be your best freind. I love playing with fire as much for my personal life lessons and progression as much as watching peoples faces.

I wouldn't be studying to become a true pyrotechnician if I didn't have a great love and respect for it. I don't know many that would make that commitment.


Edited by Puck Dallas (28/04/04 03:57 AM)

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#325855 - 27/04/04 08:14 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
Dentrassi Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane
also, compared to playing with poi or staff, breathing really doesnt require nearly as much skill or practice.

there so much less that you can do with it ... for a competition, im sure after a few breaths your going to get a bit bored watching....

id rather be respected for my spinning abilities than breathing abilities any day. hell, how many drunk dickheads have you seen at parties who firebreath - compare that to how many can do a smooth basic 3 bt weave..

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#325856 - 27/04/04 08:36 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Dentrassi]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
That just shows how much you don't really know. It is yes the most dangrous fire art and many people seeing the levels of other performers who really have no clue about Fire Breathing would agree. To be honest it requires just as much or more just because of the possibility of hurting one's self. A fire blower is easy to pick out from a firebreather if you have ever seen a real firebreather. A fireblower tends to stand in one place dance very little and have alot of fuel they don't burn off. There is alot you can do with it that most don't experiment to find mostly due to fear or lack of creativity. It is harder to do it just because there isn't some easy place to rummage through and find tricks of the trade. I have over 26 tricks. The basics are sustains, fireballs, and donuts. There are angles, sustained turns, walking forward wile breathing a sustained fireball and contact play.. After that comes the harder stuff. Which most never find or are not capable of teaching. Not to forget prop work like cigarettes, juggling,acrobatics, sphere work, and matches. The are lip tricks, how to keep the fuel toward the front of your mouth, how to get the best burn or usage of the fuel used and even the size range from 5 feet to 15 feet.

Most of the people I have run into cann't do a sustain or doesn't know that it is possible.

Do you know how many poi people I have seen do it in altered states with alcohol and much harder drugs. Come on lets get real.


Edited by Puck Dallas (27/04/04 08:49 PM)

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#325857 - 27/04/04 08:48 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Dentrassi]
Dragon7 Offline
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Registered: 17/10/03
Loc: Aotearoa (NZ)
3bt weave???

From what iv seen of you photos Den i woulndnt call you a profesional fire breather. No offence, but from what i know and have seen of puk, i can vouch, "he is the f@ KING man!"

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breathing really doesnt require nearly as much skill or practice




I disagree, i can do 6bt btb turning weave wraps and i concider blowing 8ft "volcano's" way harder and 8' is nothing compaired to what these guys are doing.

Unfortunatly for me, i developed a "problem", i can no longer breath properly and have had to retire my breathing AGAIN. Not a nice feeling just trying to breath normally.

To each their own i say, just because he wants to push himself and find comradary in it, dosn't make him an ego manic...just different...and we all have the right to be ourselves.

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#325858 - 27/04/04 08:52 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Dragon7]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
Thanks I take it we may have met at an event? I appreciate your kind words.

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#325859 - 27/04/04 08:59 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
Dentrassi Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane

well i hope i vaguely know what i am talking about - ive been Fire Breathing for 2 years.

tani - only photo i have of me breathing, taken with a dodge digital camera after ive been breathing for 2 months - photo was taken half a second too late in any case. i never got around to getting a decent photo.

but am gradually phasiing it out of my life cos i know too many people who have screwed up.

i dance around, trace /contact all over, fireeat, i play up to the audience, and make it look infinitely more dramatic than it is, walking while breathing etc. once i could control my breath, the rest came pretty naturally.

my im just abnormal - but ive spent way more time trying to work out juggling/poi/staff tricks that breathing. for shear showmanship, the firebreath looks great sure, but from the technical perspective ive found spinning more challenging

maybe its because ive worked on my spinning skills so much recently ive forgotten how much time it took to learn to breath....

id rather see a competition on all round firearts skills rather than just breathing. if someone has a breath during the performance - thats up to them.

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To each their own i say, just because he wants to push himself and find comradary in it, dosn't make him an ego manic...just different...and we all have the right to be ourselves




absolutely. couldnt agree more. i dont beleive i even implyed that. sorry if thats how it came across. full respect for performing - it something i love doing and talking about.

hopefully we can agree to disagree on this one.

apart from that, welcome to HoP!





Edited by Dentrassi (27/04/04 09:18 PM)
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#325860 - 27/04/04 09:10 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Dentrassi]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
Your are being a snob and I don't normaly waiste my time with people like that. Being a professional means being respectful to others and treating them with the courtesy you expect. I play with poi and and can do most of the tricks and have started getting into all the wrap work. So what I also don't limit myself to one form either. I can play with every fire toy I have come into contact with. Honestly fire devil sticks are harder than poi. There is alot of intricate tricks and there are people who are always devoloping new tricks and sharing. It isn't normaly the same with Fire Breathing. I wish I had it as easy as just being a poi person but I don't. I am a fireperformer which means not limiting my possibilities and I am a professional. I have treated you with respect up to this point.


Edited by Puck Dallas (27/04/04 09:16 PM)

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#325861 - 27/04/04 09:21 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
Dentrassi Offline
ZORT!

Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane
my apologies. didnt mean to say like that. post revised.
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#325862 - 27/04/04 09:21 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
ahh nice change that had a much more professional tone the second time around. Look I would like to see a competition that would allow all of us a chance to test our mettle and have comradery but I only asked about one thing. That doesn't mean you should jump down my throat.

I did make a crack about a job that I would have loved to of gotten. I am also right because alot of people who have seen me play said the same thing to me before I even saw it. She calls herself a fire eater but she doesn't do one thing that is actualy fire eating. She was probably just an actor anyways. SO it would be no wonder she would turn away in fear.


Edited by Puck Dallas (27/04/04 09:25 PM)

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#325863 - 27/04/04 09:23 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
Dentrassi Offline
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Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Brisbane
cool. didnt mean to jump down your throat.

besides, id normally buy you a drink before id get that close...
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#325864 - 27/04/04 09:28 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Dentrassi]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
It's kewl I was trying not to let it get to me. That is all apart of doing what we do. You probably felt like you were checking a newbies nuts just because I don't have many post's on this board. Becareful though because that can put off alot of people even on a performance side. It isn't like I came up in the middle of your performance and started bothering you about stuff. and asking if I could play. Stepping on toes is very easy to do and most of us don't respect anyone we don't know or haven't seen out in a circle. I also think that some people could use to learn a little more discretion with their....angst. Because honestly you don't know who you are talking to. Normaly though with in a short period of time and being respectful it isn't hard to figure out who is kewl and who isn't.

I have taught multiple students and shared a decent amount of knowledge with others. I am wanting to get all the dallas people talking and networking together to create a community so that there can be the comradere and yet have "healthy" competition. Because it helps to have people that challenge you to learn. That was how I started out. With a bunch of people that where very green and we where told what we could and couldn't do with it and sorta proved our teacher wrong. A teacher can learn just as much from a student as a student can from a teacher. It is a trade that many are narow sighted about to.

If you look at my first post I didn't claim to be the best man. I actualy have freinds that told me that recently and it is a pretty scarry idea for me. I sadly don't get out of texas much but would happily travel for any event given the chance and money. Just because I am good doesn't mean I am rich...yet.

SO does anyone know of anything. I would like to meet every performer out there and go to all the events but it is hard for me to do so on a very limited budget.


Edited by Puck Dallas (27/04/04 10:55 PM)

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#325865 - 27/04/04 11:04 PM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: Puck Dallas]
musashii Offline
starring Skippy the green llama

Registered: 14/12/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
lol, if someone slaps your nuts it's because you laid them on the table. I'd suggest that you host a competition if you wish to see what kind of talent the southeast really has, but it's hard to say how many old skoolers would come out for a competition.
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#325866 - 28/04/04 03:29 AM Re: Does any one know of any firebreathing competi [Re: musashii]
Puck Dallas Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Loc: usa, Dallas, Tx
I would beg to differ. My post is completely humble. You guys bristled up like cats. As for old schoolers the more the merrier. I don't know many so that would be kewl. Honestly I would like to meet some brazilian and islander firebreathers. I think that would be awesome. I like people who are serious about there art. I am a three year veteran as an acting professional which yes there are people that have done it for longer but it is quality vs. quanity and I started out being taught by someone that had been doing it for 15 years. He taught me the basics though there is alot I found on my own. It is handy to have been a choral student and swimmer and start out in a network of people you can bounce new ideas off of.

TO be honest who gave you the right to pick on a newbie. If anything those of you that are more experienced should work on guiding those that are new and not misstreating them because you don't know them. What if I had come up to you during or after a performance of yours would you be civil or just another one of those assholes. May be you should consider that next time. Especialy if they are 6' 3" and pierced and tattoo. It just might be me. Because then after you see what I can do I wont talk to you about sh** if you where rude and uncool.


Edited by Puck Dallas (28/04/04 04:05 AM)

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