Defining a good spinner

When I first found this site and looked at the video clips of the moves, I decided I wasn't going to actually tell anyone that I was good until I could do all of the moves on that page, but in particular the behind the back weave was my holy grail of poi moves - I decided that once I could pull it off reliably, I could tell people I was reasonably good without feeling as though I was bragging.

However, since I can almost pull off the BTB weave, and after seeing loads of other people spin who are far, far better spinners than I am, I still don't consider myself good.

Since I know that being considered good is very subjective, I thought I'd ask you lot, how do you define being a good spinner?

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Actually, come to think of it, that makes me sound as though I just want to be able to tell people I'm really good at spinning.
That's not really what I mean, I don't really like the idea of telling people how good I am at something or quantifying how good someone is at spinning, but I'm interested in what people have to say, so my question still stands.

[ 12 September 2002, 01:52: Message edited by: TheBovrilMonkey ]

someone who looks amazing doing it and how seems to be a part of their poi..there was this french chick at spittlefields a few weeks ago...(it probably didnt help i was stoned at the time)...and she was abso-fucking-lutly incrediable!! and she was only doing butterfly combinations and variations..she was like move...stop...move...stop...move...stop...move stop...etc
i think her name was corrine (i bet your blushing if your reading this)

btw how was spittlefields this week?

and are you comming mine on sunday?

[ 12 September 2002, 01:55: Message edited by: THE UNITED CHAINS OF FIRE ]

hmm... i had a similar thing when i was learning, cos i always felt that once i could pull off all the moves of my mentor, then i could consider myself to be half decent, cos i always though that he was...

i dunno, the more i spin, and see others spin, the more i realise that u gotta kinda make it ur own, its its more bout the little things that u do, rather than big tricks... There are only so many tricks, so it becomes how smooth u are at the transitions and stuff

when is a spinner smooth enough, well never really... so i dunno, but i might have thrown some ideas around

bollock! must stop doing that!

A firm believer in the fact that every being has potential to be 'good' at anything, I think ALL spinners are good. They may be on different lavels, but they're good none the less.

Plus, all spinners I know have such distinctive styles, I don't really think you can compare them. What I have noticed though is that spinning isn't a way of life for all. Some are completely besotted, while others merely dabble.
I have to say, the best spinner (for me) are those who do it with passion...

UCOF..
I know who yer on about, she's called Carine, and she IS fuking amazing! I don't think she posts her though...
She's been spinning for over three years So thats what WE have to look forward to!!

There was me thinking I'd got 4 replies already, only to discover 3 of them were from Havoc

Do you hit the back button when you're posting or something? I don't know how you get the multiple posts. If you click on the edit button, I think you can delete the extra ones if you want. Having more replies makes me think my threads are popular though, so you could leave them on there

Spittlefields was brilliant, despite it taking so long to get there - it's 2 hours each way for me. I got back home at almost 1 in the morning.
What time are people turning up at yours on sunday? I need to see some people early sunday afternoon, but I could come along for a bit of spinning afterwards. I'm not sure I can stay for fire though, I'll probably need some sleep before I go to work on monday.

yeah, its hitting back, and then when it goes "page has expired" going refresh! i am sorry to all the happy people that thought they had mail!

about 4 ish or so...if you need extra details...i believe you have my number from reading...(if not its either home 02084283979 or mobile 07732878373) see you soon...(where do you live anyway?)

Carine is amazing, as are ......actually I'm not giving people the ego trip that this would be.

Personally I'll never consider myself good, coz I have absolutely no style what-so-ever.....

But there are many peeps out there I do.....
Largely female ones but that's another story - lol

Seriously though, girls are just naturally good coz they slink (*droooooooooooooooooooooooooool*) but then that's something you have to work on if you're a guy.
Being technically good, is different from being rythmically good, which is different again to other stuff.....

Being good is a state of mind, but I know what you mean Rory, being able to do a btb weave doesn't make you it, it is a landmark/milestone but it just impresses the new peeps.

As you get better, you'll still probably not consider yourself good because the people you originally looked up to will still be better (by and large).

DFQ's right though, anyone that does it with a passion kicks ass.........people that do 5 moves flawlessly and with style are just as good as someone that dopes 50 moves ok and with no style at all......especially when it comes to fire.

Just ma thoughts......

agreed with the never considering urself good, cos even if u do get better then who u were looking up too, then there are always more peeps that u go "omg wow!" about, like this carine, who i dont know (unsurprisingly) but who sounds like a person i oughta meet

Yeah nice to finally meet you Mr Bovril Monkey

AND IT'S SPITALFIELDS.....................honestly you peeps

No it's Ewans fault for spelling it like that in the thread title under events.

I only said it coz no-one belives me and I thought i might invoke somekind of argument out of it - lol. (Evil aint I?)

I'm not sensitive about the spelling - hehehehehehe

admit it SmallWun, it broke your wickle heart.

that should read
adwit it smallwun...it bwoke wour wittle weart

Who is that nice man who made my poi look so good on Sat night (sorry, sorry - was stoned and forgot your name!!)

I don't agree that all girls are naturally good, cause they slink. My boyf says I look like a gerky video game character (but think that is more down to fact that I don't practice than a personal style )

It used to bite my ass that the Japanese girls could do a simple weave over and over and make it look so fantastically graceful.

I like watching beautfiully pulled off moves as opposed to technically superior ones, but if you can manage both - then I guess thats a top spinner!

Hmmmm, properly defining a truly good spinner will take weeks of carefull consideration and planning and months of psychoanalysis, tests and mental challenges......ahem.......actually I consider anyone who can spin whatever it is they're trying to spin without dropping it every second to be a good spinner........wait a minute........that includes me.....YAY!!!!!!!!!!

I was working on something new the other day, and my friend was like "Im not used to seeing you fuck up. This is wierd."

That made me feel like I was good.
but then again, all I do is the windmill.

I thought so too, about trying to get 'good'..

I don't think I'll ever be good though, I see too many errors in my own style.

I think its relative though, objectively. To the average person, if you can do anything behind your back, you're amazing. In fact, people cheer when Paddy lies on his back and does a butterfly, but they don't usually cheer when I do a side-2-side btb weave w/ turning.

So I guess, be as good as you want to be.