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#30390 - 09/04/02 03:40 PM A positive form of Rascism???
Charles Moderator Offline
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Registered: 27/06/01
Loc: Auckland
Just read in the next video comp thread someone saying that they love Canadians.

While it's nothing to get all angsty about, isn't that just as rascist/bigotted as saying you hate canadians?

If you made that blanket statement and some angry, annoying smelling Canadian came up to you and wanted to be friends, but also wanted you to lend him money and stop seeing your family and current friends? Would you even consider sticking to it?

Just wondering how others see this type of "positive" bias...
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#30391 - 09/04/02 03:42 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Cantus Offline
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Registered: 30/07/01
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I only like 2 New Zealanders.

I only know 2 New Zealanders.
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#30392 - 09/04/02 03:45 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
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How do you change this thing???

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3 days till what???
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#30393 - 09/04/02 03:48 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
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#30394 - 09/04/02 04:31 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
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#30395 - 09/04/02 04:38 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
falloutboy Offline
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Canada deserves to be loved.. "all tucked away down there". haha

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#30396 - 09/04/02 04:48 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
The Welcome Matt Offline
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Registered: 27/11/01
Loc: Manchester NH USA
I'm sorry.. but I kind of take offense to that. It was a friggin joke.

I realize it was an open statement that prob. doesn't have TOTAL truth to it cause i've never met EVERY Canadian in Canada.

I'm a twenty year old college student and I'm very anti racism. To even suggest that I've had intentions of equivicating my statement to racism is not right. You have twisted a friendly gesture into suggesting something negative. If it helps, I take back my "racist" statement. I do not love ALL Canadians.. I like the MANY Canadians that I have met. I enjoy being in the places in Canada that I have been to. Maybe some day I will live there because I LIKE the places I have been to.

Please think again about who you call a Biggot. They might find it difficult to not get "angsty"

You might think that I've blown this out of proportion, but I am truly offended.

[ 09 April 2002, 18:05: Message edited by: The Welcome Matt ]
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#30397 - 09/04/02 04:53 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Cantus Offline
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Ooh look Charles you've got your very own poi positions type thread going now....
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#30398 - 09/04/02 05:02 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Cantus Offline
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If you're offended why did you put a wink smilie at the end of it? You should put a grr smilie, surely?

A wink kind of says "ooh, actually I'm just joshing with you..."

*backs away slowly, keeping his hands visible at all times. Trying not to alarm anyone*
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#30399 - 09/04/02 05:30 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
phunky Offline
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Registered: 30/07/01
Loc: Edmonton, AB Canada eh
Since were on the discussion on candadians i'd thought i'd share some funny i came across

>Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing
>for

> > > > >six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him,

>resting

> > > > >on the seventh day.

> > > > >

> > > > >He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep

>sigh of

> > > > >satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the

>clouds, "Look

> > > > >Michael, look what I've made."

> > > > >

> > > > >Archangel Michael looked puzzled, "What is it," he said?

> > > > >"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm

>going to

> > > > >call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of

>balance."

> > > > >

> > > > >"Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused.

> > > > >

> > > > >God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth, "For

>example,

> > > > >Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and

>wealth while

> > > > >Southern Europe is going to be poor.

> > > > >

> > > > >God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one

>will be

> > > > >extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and

> > > > >covered in ice."

> > > > >

> > > > >The Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then pointed to a

>large

> > > > >landmass in the top corner and asked, "What's that one?"

> > > > >

> > > > >"Ah," said God. "That's Canada, the most glorious place on

>Earth.

> > > > >There are beautiful mountains, lakes, rivers, streams and

>exquisite

> > > > >coastlines.

> > > > >The people from Canada are going to be modest, intelligent

>and

>humorous

> > > > >and they're going to be found traveling the world. They'll

>be

>extremely

> > > > >sociable, hardworking and high achieving, and they will be

>known

> > > > >throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. I'm

>also

>going

> > > > >to give them super-human, undefeatable ice hockey players

>who will

> > > > >be admired and feared by all who come across them."

> > > > >

> > > > >Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed:

>"What

> > > > >about balance, God? You said there would be BALANCE!"

> > > > >

> > > > >God replied wisely. "Wait until you see the loud-mouth

>bastards I'm putting next to them..."
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#30400 - 09/04/02 05:56 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
adamrice Offline
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Registered: 19/12/00
Loc: Austin TX USA
Now, you see, the reason people like Canadians is because whenever Canadians are being jerks, people jump to the conclusion that they're Americans.
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#30401 - 09/04/02 07:57 PM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
phunky Offline
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Registered: 30/07/01
Loc: Edmonton, AB Canada eh
Yep, Americans get discriminated against a lot. There are many Canadians that are arrogant and rude. There are many Americans that are nice and tolerant. It's all about the reputation.
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#30402 - 10/04/02 02:38 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
The Welcome Matt Offline
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Registered: 27/11/01
Loc: Manchester NH USA
well.. If you are a human then i'm pretty tolerant of ya. I'm sorry for lashing out at you Charles. I def. didn't get anything accomplished with that. Sorry. [Frown]
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#30403 - 10/04/02 03:50 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
SmokyDavy Offline
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Registered: 17/01/02
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I'm canadian, and I never rush to meet canadians when I'm travelling. I don't get along with most of them, and usually I find them to be anal-retentive, elitist, loud, self-righteous, ignorant, arrogant and far too proud.

I've met and observed loads of Canadians who carry with them every quality that everyone finds so annoying about Americans, only they do it while proudly proclaiming how great it is that they're NOT Americans.

In general though, I try my best not to judge someone until they've given away some of the signs of those qualities. Like one girl I met from Manitoba who thought it was impressive that the black people in London can speak with the british accent.

Of course, I also met an american who thought Bush was a good and fair leader and full of smarts, that one was more shocking to be honest.

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#30404 - 10/04/02 05:02 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
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Registered: 31/12/01
Loc: San Diego California
COME ON PEOPLE LETS STOP ALL THIS NORTH AMERICAN ON NORTH AMERICAN VIOLENCE!!!!!
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#30405 - 10/04/02 05:28 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Pele Moderator Offline
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Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
Herm...interesting question Charles. Is positive rascism possible? Wouldn't that be then called favoritism? Unless you are discussing your own country which is then patriotism?

Thing is, racisim has such a negative connotation, and when saying something positive no one wants to have it affiliated with such a negative term, so then it becomes somewhat paradoxical.

I think a statment such as that is only "racist" if someone were to say "I love only Canadians." Then it would be offensive to other nations. I base my opinions on what I know. I "know" people from New Zealand and they are wonderful, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that I love all New Zealanders.

No matter what country you live in people are going to be people. There will always be jerks, sweeties, a*&holes, egotists, beautiful ones...the full gambit. That is the fault of humanity, or maybe the strength in difference, and not the result of geographic locale.

My .02
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#30406 - 10/04/02 06:52 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Cantus Offline
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Registered: 30/07/01
Loc: Down the road
Pele, did i not make the same point as you but with far fewer words? Sorry. Just thought it was funny (ish).

Pay me no mind.
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#30407 - 10/04/02 09:59 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Charles Moderator Offline
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Registered: 27/06/01
Loc: Auckland
Welcome Matt, my apologies for any offense I may have caused, I should have been less specific about where my idea came from.

I realised it was a joke and also neglected to mention your name directly. My intention was to actually bring up the last sentence on my post as the main question...In retrospect I should have left all the previous information out completely.

I was defintely not accusing anyone of being rascist, but wished to bring up the "positive bias" question in a way that will make others read it.

I'll be happy to reword or delete anything in this thread at your request.

Feel free to email me directly aboutt his if you wish.

My apologies...
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#30408 - 10/04/02 10:21 AM Re: A positive form of Rascism???
Organized Kaos Offline
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Registered: 20/12/01
Loc: Thornhill, Ontario Canada
I like, most Canadians eh?
Except for those rude loud mouthed cocky assed american canadians!!! (eh?)
and for thos who just mite take offence
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PURE JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But Kanadas chilled and so are canadians,,,wait, thats why I live there...
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