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    #810838 - 05/02/07 11:29 PM Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial
    mcp Offline
    Flying Water Muppet

    Registered: 20/05/03
    Loc: Edin-borrow.
    Definative version here: http://mcp.tepookatoys.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=203&Itemid=11

    Exciting developments for polish spinners: YouTube user 'yamesoq' - POLISH

    So you wanna learn contact?

    1) get a staff to practise with. Possibly you aready have one. Any bit of metal or wooden tube will do, it should be approximately your chin height, bigger or smaller doesn't have much of a difference. Weighting doesn't really matter at this point.

    For learning contact however, the staff you use IS important. And we are doing that right now, so here is the skinny:
    mcp - article on contact staffs
    mcp - how to build a contact staff


    All of the movements in the following sections are related but might not be exactly identical. They should give you a good idea of how the movement works and what the simplest form of the movement is, so you can build it up from there. Once you have learned the basic version of the move, there are usually many different directions you can take it in and many ways to to make it look good.

    Sometimes there are also links to 'category' sections where you can find many more movements based on the 'base' movement reaching right up to very advanced. So if you particularly enjoy a movement, you can build on it if you desire.

    Don't feel like you have to learn these in order. Some of them, thou the movement is small are very tricky and technical to get right, fishtails for example. Don't get hung up on them, thinking you have to learn them before you advance to the next move. You can totally learn any way you like. Most of the moves here don't build on the ones before, apart from the Steve and the SNES.

    Again, don't get hung up on a move you can't do. Find on you enjoy. You're learning how the staff physically moves and how you can get your body to control and manipulate it. You're not really learning "tricks". Play around with the moves you know, sometimes trying to keep the staff in contact with your body for as long as possible, planes (and generally speed) be damned, sometimes trying to get an individual move extremely clean. Try and be mindful of what your body is doing, develop spatial awareness for where your body is and where the staff is. (this will save your head from a bashing)



    palmspins

    The staff is set spinning horizontally supported under it's center point by the palm of the hand.

    bender / spinferno picture tutorial
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1209


    hand wraps

    A very simple contact move, but quite enjoyable. The staff wraps over the wrist of the hand.

    mot's gif tutorial
    mot's gif tutorial
    mot's gif tutorial
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1216
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1217
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1218


    fishtails

    quite a deceptively tricky movement. Watch the tutorials closely...

    mot's gif tutorial
    bender's gif on homeofpoi
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1214
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 3032


    halo roll

    a very basic move, the staff rolls/steps on your upper back from one side of your body to the other.

    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page


    elbow wraps

    aka conveyor belt, quite a technical move, not entirely basic. You have to have the center point of the staff in the middle of the triangle you create with your arm and your body.

    mot's gif tutorial
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    tomo's baton twirling tutorial - REALPLAYER
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 3263
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 3270


    neck wraps

    A very basic move, the staff wraps the back of the neck.

    japanese video clip
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page


    belly / back wrap

    You release the staff from behind the back, it wraps over the belly, and then you catch it behind the back with the other hand. Tricky, but pretty easy with a big long staff, you should those club jugglers doing it with a club...

    mcp firestaff tutorial
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 1295


    steve

    aka: an armroll then neck wrap then arm roll down the other arm. One of the first decent contact moves I learned, and still one of my favourates.

    fireninja video clips
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page
    feuershow - QUICKLINK: 3256


    snes

    aka: shoulder neck shoulder. A slightly more advanced move, with much ability to bop you in the head. staff wraps the shoulder, then does a neck wrap, then wraps over the other shoulder...

    inspinerate video tutorial
    inspinerate - category page
    mcp firestaff tutorial
    mcp firestaff tutorial - category page


    kickups

    Ever useful for that 'occassional' drop when you're learning... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

    mcp firestaff tutorial
    juggling club kickup tutorial - text
    anthony gatto club kickup tutorial - YouTube




    References: (and further study)


    mcp.tepookatoys.com
    www.motsplace.com
    www.geocities.jp/performerjin - JAPANESE
    www.fireninja.com
    www.interq.or.jp - JAPANESE
    www.spherculism.net
    inspinerate.com
    www.spinferno.com
    www.twjc.co.uk
    www.feuershow.de ENGLISH + GERMAN + SPANISH
    YouTube user 'yamesoq' - POLISH



    Edited by mcp (20/10/08 03:19 PM)
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    #810839 - 06/02/07 12:27 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    bluecat Offline
    geek, level 1

    Registered: 15/12/02
    Loc: everywhere


    go mop!
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    #810840 - 06/02/07 12:30 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: bluecat]
    mcp Offline
    Flying Water Muppet

    Registered: 20/05/03
    Loc: Edin-borrow.
    I wish feuershow would allow direct links... I might put in the quicklink codes anyway...
    _________________________
    "the now legendary" - Kaskade
    "the still legendary" - Kaskade

    I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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    #810841 - 06/02/07 12:36 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    Skatto Offline
    Walking on whims...

    Registered: 12/01/07
    Loc: Eastbourne, UK
    You really are helping me a bundle
    Thanks.
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    "Fly like a mouse,
    Run like a cushion,
    Be the small bookcase."

    For goodness sake, don't aggravate the otters!!!

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    #810842 - 06/02/07 12:41 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    -sandy- Offline
    old hand

    Registered: 12/07/04
    Loc: Bristol
    Do it, they will probably be gratefull. i am.
    Good work
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    #810843 - 06/02/07 12:44 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: -sandy-]
    bluecat Offline
    geek, level 1

    Registered: 15/12/02
    Loc: everywhere
    hopefully going to get this and the other thread stuck at the top for all to see....
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    #810844 - 06/02/07 12:58 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: bluecat]
    _Clare_ Offline
    Still wiggling

    Registered: 22/10/02
    Loc: Belfast



    Well done lady...

    Fishtails are beginner?! Really?!

    Pah.
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    #810845 - 06/02/07 01:21 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: _Clare_]
    Mynci Offline
    Macaque of all trades

    Registered: 27/04/05
    Loc: wombling free...
    Meg you are a diamond... and have far too much time on your hands...
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    #810846 - 06/02/07 01:25 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Mynci]
    mcp Offline
    Flying Water Muppet

    Registered: 20/05/03
    Loc: Edin-borrow.
    OCD, strikes again. What can I say? It's the reptilian bit of my brain doin' it...
    _________________________
    "the now legendary" - Kaskade
    "the still legendary" - Kaskade

    I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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    #810847 - 06/02/07 01:37 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    Neon_Shaolin Offline
    hehe, 'Member' huhuh

    Registered: 13/07/05
    Loc: Behind you. With Jam
    Along with the Good Cop Bad Cop segments... Honestly you could spilt your brain and serve it like a chocolate orange...

    *Giggles at the thought of Meg in a Police Uniform...*
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    #810848 - 06/02/07 01:37 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    Mynci Offline
    Macaque of all trades

    Registered: 27/04/05
    Loc: wombling free...
     Written by: mcp


    It's the reptilian bit of my brain doin' it...



    you mean you have a part that ISN'T
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    #810849 - 06/02/07 02:37 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Mynci]
    strugz Offline
    Carpal \'Tunnel

    Registered: 06/03/02
    Loc: Southampton - Possibly...
    Meg - i hate you

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    #810850 - 06/02/07 02:39 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: strugz]
    mcp Offline
    Flying Water Muppet

    Registered: 20/05/03
    Loc: Edin-borrow.
    I hate you too strugz!

    _________________________
    "the now legendary" - Kaskade
    "the still legendary" - Kaskade

    I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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    #810851 - 06/02/07 02:47 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    Neon_Shaolin Offline
    hehe, 'Member' huhuh

    Registered: 13/07/05
    Loc: Behind you. With Jam
    Get a room! Hmmm, There should be a thread...
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    #810852 - 06/02/07 03:05 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
    Stout Offline
    Pooh-Bah

    Registered: 12/05/04
    Loc: Canada
    YEA !!!!!!!!

    Thanks Meg.

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    #810853 - 06/02/07 01:08 PM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Stout]
    Gnor Offline
    Carpal \'Tunnel

    Registered: 31/03/03
    Loc: Perth
    mm....I think this needs to be shown in person, like at CG

    Good stuff

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    #810854 - 20/02/07 09:23 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Gnor]
    Sporky Offline
    addict

    Registered: 25/07/05
    Loc: Glasgow
    Meg you foot That is fantastic.
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    #810855 - 17/03/07 08:15 PM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Sporky]
    thelightproject Offline
    Member

    Registered: 30/05/05
    Loc: NSW
    sweet links! can anyone recommend me a place to buy a good contact staff? i bought the 3 piece from here but i kept dropping it so now the locking system is kind of sketchy....

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    #810856 - 06/04/07 06:38 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: thelightproject]
    Skatto Offline
    Walking on whims...

    Registered: 12/01/07
    Loc: Eastbourne, UK
    I was disappointed with the three-piece here - go for a solid non-telescopic one.
    They are much more durable.

    I bought my fav staff from a shop called Oddballs in Brighton.
    If there is no such local-ish shop for you, then I recommend a solid one-piece staff from here... but postage can be a pain.

    Or if you are just starting out - play around with a home made staff. Any form of pole will do... I like it to be eye-level, but many reccommend chin height.

    My first staff was a bamboo stick, my second was a broom handle - on which I had added two broom heads to each end of the stick for the "weight" (to act as mock fire heads), then I bought my current staff for 30.

    I think if check Megs site you will find details how to actually make your own staff.


    Edited by McAlpine (08/04/07 09:24 PM)
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    Skatto

    "Fly like a mouse,
    Run like a cushion,
    Be the small bookcase."

    For goodness sake, don't aggravate the otters!!!

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    #810857 - 12/04/07 11:04 PM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Skatto]
    nasher Offline
    newbie

    Registered: 10/04/07
    Basically what everyone else has said, good links and thanks.

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    #810858 - 14/04/07 12:13 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: nasher]
    Rellizate Offline
    old hand

    Registered: 10/02/07
    Loc: Cambridge, UK
    Thanks for this.
    The SNES is painful on my head though. :-/

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    #871381 - 25/09/08 08:01 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: Rellizate]
    MRC Offline
    Funky Blessings Daily

    Registered: 17/06/08
    <3

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    #872032 - 01/10/08 10:38 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: MRC]
    squid Offline
    sanguine

    Registered: 15/04/07
    Loc: sur
    fyi- the link to Anthony Gatto's club kickup tutorial is dead. Apparently claiming copyrights on youtube.
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    #873961 - 20/10/08 03:20 PM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: squid]
    mcp Offline
    Flying Water Muppet

    Registered: 20/05/03
    Loc: Edin-borrow.
    BUMP!

    Updated the feuershow links to go directly to the tutorials. Added in languages to the resources section. Found a set of Polish Tutorials. At least, I think they're polish.
    _________________________
    "the now legendary" - Kaskade
    "the still legendary" - Kaskade

    I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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    #878676 - 13/12/08 02:45 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: mcp]
    Yameso Offline
    stranger

    Registered: 04/09/08
    Loc: Cracow, Poland
    Yes, they're polish smile Thx for adding them to your article wink

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    #935436 - 20/12/11 10:22 PM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: nasher]
    faverric Offline
    stranger

    Registered: 20/12/11


    Edited by faverric (24/12/11 01:03 AM)

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    #935463 - 24/12/11 01:03 AM Re: Beginner Contact Staff Tutorial [Re: faverric]
    faverric Offline
    stranger

    Registered: 20/12/11
    thanks.


    Edited by faverric (24/12/11 01:03 AM)

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