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Poi BTB (Behind The Back) Weave - tips

      

Below are some helpful excerpts from the discussion board on the topic of BTB weave

"maybe the best thing that I can say is that the weave you perform is not that much changed when you do it behind the back... I reckon that it's the same movements as when you do it in front, and the major change is that you position your body in front of your hands and the chains, instead of behind them. think of it as a change in body position, maybe, instead of a change in hand position?? as to length of chains, I learnt them both with short chains (c. 40cm) and then started practising it with longer (60cm) chains" - Simon

"I like mid to long lengths on them for behind the back...short ones you have to lean too far forward for to avoid hitting yerself and too long you thwap yourself in odd places (gave myself a shiner on the left eye). Might as well have yer head between yer legs at that point...hmmmmm...ideas....

At any rate,...it is VERY frusterating Everything kind of came natural and effortless until that point, and even then it was the weave and such, that screwed me over...the butterfly variations were fairly easy. Start with one arm, switch to the other and slowly then work them in together. It's about the best I can say...that and work your week arm more" -Pele

"i recently got the reverse weave behind the back. My one friend figured it out before me and i'd be damned if he knew sumthin i didn't ,so one day i decided to learn the move and at the end of the day i knew the R.W.B.T.B .
What i did was to get used to spinning behind the back , first with 1 Poi in my right hand ,i put this hand behind my back and spun it on my left side in revere , then i tried bringing this hand back to my right side,then back to the left(smiple side to side figure of 8).
Then i did this with my left hand.
Once i had perfected both i did the same useing 1 Poi but holding the Poi with 1 hand.
thenthen only did i start one the actual move, i don't think i could ex plain the rest without confuseing you so my advice would be to look at this move in the lessons section and try visualise what your hands must do" - Vulcan

"i recently got the btb weave to flow nicely myself - well what i was doing wrongly before was that i was too upright, if you know what i mean - if you look at the animation you'll see that the guy is bending forwards a bit - this might help you a bit" - Simos

"i agree, the reverse btb weave is undoubtedly a lot harder to learn than the forwards btb weave - this also holds true for the weave in general (3 or 5 beat). The reason for this is the way our wrists are built - the forwards weave is just more natural. But the reverse is definitly doable, it isn`t even that hard to do, but the learning process can be annoying. I have found that one of the best ways to acquire any btb moves is to practise them with clubs (or sticks weighted at the end ) first. This builds up the required wrist flexibility and enables you to slow down a given move considerably, which helped me a lot ... come to think of it - no tangled chains either.
When you try btb moves with pois use comet pois - i think the tail helps you a lot by slowing the move down and at the same time stabilizing the trajectories of the pois.
Learning btb moves might be annoying but is
definitly worth it. Given enough time the moves become quite natural and add a touch of class to your swinging! So keep up the good work." - Funkenflug

"a HINT - try the forwards btb weave first (this is the one you enter by swinging in REVERSE at your sides) it's easier i think..
when i do it, say the Poi are on my left side, then my right hand is close to my back (about 5 cm away) and about 10-15cm above my waist; also you must be flexi enough to make sure it goes far enough to the left but that comes with practise and i am not very flexi either so you won't have so many flexibility problems; it will just feel more confortable a few weeks after you get it" - Simos

 

See also Poi advanced weaves, Poi Beginner BTB weave


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